Since Cirith Ungol's Not Til Film Three....

bropous · 03-21-2002, 08:18 PM

Now that it appears that Shelob and the tower of Cirith Ungol are bumped to RotK, one can wonder this:

In all of the Two Towers, Frodo and Sam's journey with Gollum will go just from Emyn Muil to maybe the base of the path to Cirith Ungol and Shelob's Lair.

That's a lot of film and not a lot of action, even though a lot of action is occurring with the other remnants of the Fellowship. So, it only makes sense that The Two Towers is going to give to the audience the "character development" stuff they cried was missing from Fellowship. There will be a good amount of time, set against the parallel plots of Merry, Pippin and Treebeard as well as Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the Rohirrim, to devote more screen exposure to the interaction of the characters.

So a (relatively) lot of time in Ithilien, after the turning aside at the Gates of Mordor. A lot of screen time for Gollum, which is intriguing. Plenty of time for the development of "events out west" in the neighborhood of the Gap of Rohan and the headwaters of the River Isen.

I imagine The Two Towers might even have a slightly less "hurried" pace than Fellowship. Less material, more time, might be even better crafted.

As for the ending of the film, as far as Sam and Frodo, I see a shot from below the Hobbits as they are starting up the stairway to Cirith Ungol, Frodo looking tired, worn and old, complaining how heavy the Ring is and Sam swearing to carry him to Mount Doom if he has to. Red light glints off the cloudbank hovering above the Pass, as Mount Doom rumbles and vents more and more magma as Sauron's power waxes. they dash for cover as below, an outpouring of Orcs in ranks led by a Nazgul head out of Minas Morgul, beautiful Ithilien in their path. All seems lost. No real hope. And Gollum has mysteriously disappeared....

[Cue credits]

Comic Book Guy · 03-21-2002, 08:23 PM

You should have posted this in this thread here, that discusses the things in your post.

03-21-2002, 08:18 PM	#1
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	Since Cirith Ungol's Not Til Film Three.... Now that it appears that Shelob and the tower of Cirith Ungol are bumped to RotK, one can wonder this: In all of the Two Towers, Frodo and Sam's journey with Gollum will go just from Emyn Muil to maybe the base of the path to Cirith Ungol and Shelob's Lair. That's a lot of film and not a lot of action, even though a lot of action is occurring with the other remnants of the Fellowship. So, it only makes sense that The Two Towers is going to give to the audience the "character development" stuff they cried was missing from Fellowship. There will be a good amount of time, set against the parallel plots of Merry, Pippin and Treebeard as well as Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and the Rohirrim, to devote more screen exposure to the interaction of the characters. So a (relatively) lot of time in Ithilien, after the turning aside at the Gates of Mordor. A lot of screen time for Gollum, which is intriguing. Plenty of time for the development of "events out west" in the neighborhood of the Gap of Rohan and the headwaters of the River Isen. I imagine The Two Towers might even have a slightly less "hurried" pace than Fellowship. Less material, more time, might be even better crafted. As for the ending of the film, as far as Sam and Frodo, I see a shot from below the Hobbits as they are starting up the stairway to Cirith Ungol, Frodo looking tired, worn and old, complaining how heavy the Ring is and Sam swearing to carry him to Mount Doom if he has to. Red light glints off the cloudbank hovering above the Pass, as Mount Doom rumbles and vents more and more magma as Sauron's power waxes. they dash for cover as below, an outpouring of Orcs in ranks led by a Nazgul head out of Minas Morgul, beautiful Ithilien in their path. All seems lost. No real hope. And Gollum has mysteriously disappeared.... [Cue credits] __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

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03-21-2002, 08:23 PM	#2
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