The deed of the three friends

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-22-2002, 10:46 PM

I remember reading once on the Internet exactly how far, and in how much time, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli run in pursuit of the Orcs that captured M & P. Anybody have that info? I remember it being a pretty ridiculous distance, expecially for Gimli on his stubby little Dwarf legs running with two 6'8" whippets, although you get the feeling that Aragorn and Legolas could have run non-stop if not for Master Sluggard.

ragamuffin92 · 01-22-2002, 10:52 PM

You must really enjoy stirring up trouble, huh?

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-22-2002, 11:00 PM

Hey, blame the Elf! That's a direct quote!

ragamuffin92 · 01-22-2002, 11:06 PM

Good volley!!

Arathorn · 01-22-2002, 11:17 PM

Yup!

I remember Eomer in near disbelief at the speed they seemed to cover:

Quote:

Wingfoot I name you. This deed of the three friends should be sung in many a hall. Forty leagues and five you have measured ere the fourth day is ended! Hardy is the race of Elendil!

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-23-2002, 12:13 AM

I looked it up, and a league is (currently) 3 miles, so if Tolkein used consistent conversions, they travelled 135 miles on foot in 4 days, or about a marathon plus 5 miles per day for 4 days. Thank god they had the PowerBar of Middle-Earth, lembas.

afro-elf · 01-23-2002, 12:24 AM

For us normal people it may seem tremendous.

But there are ultra marathons that people run that total 100 miles.

The ironman competetion are 2 miles of swimmimg, biking 112 miles, then running a marathon. The top finishers come in between 8 and 9 hours.

The female chinese marathon team runs a marathon every day before breakfast.

For an Elf, THE Dunadan, and a Dwarf, the above seems like a cake walk.

Arathorn · 01-23-2002, 01:06 AM

Yup..after running 33.75 miles/day for 4 days...you'd start seeing strange things in the forest too...

Comic Book Guy · 01-23-2002, 03:43 PM

Elves as most of you should know, have power and skills more greater than Humans, including endurance. Aragorn was a pure Numenorian, who has more strength than the Normal human race.
Dwarves were said to have great endurance.

Quote:

'Well, after them!' said Gimli. 'Dwarves too can go swiftly, and they do not tire sooner than Orcs. But it will be a long chase: they have a long start.'

'Yes,' said Aragorn, 'we shall all need the endurance of Dwarves.'

I'm not sure, but I believe Hobbits can only travel around 20 Miles a day.

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-23-2002, 04:09 PM

It's amazing that Legolas isn't even winded at any point. Some of that is probably due to the lembas' enhanced effect on his elven system, the other part is the natural strength and willpower of his race.

The ability of armed Elves to cover huge distances in short times must have been a huge advantage to Elven war captains.

Arathorn · 01-23-2002, 09:51 PM

I guess the drug reference (there's another thread somewhere in this forum) is not limited to pipe weed but to lembas as well....

Laurelyn · 01-23-2002, 10:08 PM

How is lembas drug-related?

Arathorn · 01-23-2002, 10:18 PM

Well seeing that people don't sleep much after taking it and get all suspicious, these are the same effects of a drug in the philippines called shabu or ice.

Ñólendil · 01-24-2002, 03:51 PM

Lembas doesn't have a tendency to make people lose sleep or get suspicious. It has the healing power of sustenance and strength of will.

Pailan · 01-24-2002, 04:46 PM

I think one should also factor in the gear the three kindreds were shouldering as well. They weren't dressed for a track meet. Weapons and bed rolls and water and food and looking for clues... all that makes for slow going plus carrying the grief of the fellowship falling apart. So 34 miles a day is a very good pace.

This brings up the question so what is the fastest travelling method in ME? Horse? Winged steed of the Nazgul? Eagle? Oliphaunt? And what do you think the fastest speed would be?

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-24-2002, 05:06 PM

They were also struggling against some unseen force that repelled them and aided the Orcs (i guess the will of Saruman).

As for the slickest wheels in Middle Earth, I doubt anything could outpace an Eagle, except for maybe Bill the Pony. Or my Fell Beast (pre-denoggination).

Pailan · 01-24-2002, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Foul_Dwimmerlaik

As for the slickest wheels in Middle Earth, I doubt anything could outpace an Eagle, except for maybe Bill the Pony. Or my Fell Beast (pre-denoggination).

Pre-denoggination LOL!

ragamuffin92 · 01-24-2002, 05:52 PM

To be fair to everyone, I think this site should be non-denogginational.

(Great word-coinage!!)

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-24-2002, 06:05 PM

To be fair, I didn't coin it....it came from Kramer of Seinfeld, who, when discussing that lack of good nicknames for serial killers these days, threw out "Son of Dad" and "The Denogginator" as possible examples. "Son of Dad" cracks me up every time.

Churl · 01-25-2002, 03:36 AM

Another Seinfeld fan?&nbsp Great reference, Foul_Dwimmerlaik!&nbsp That wouldn’t, by any chance, be a pseudonym for "Arthur Vandelay," would it?

And “non-denogginational,” ragamuffin&nbsp…&nbsp?&nbsp I’m still laughing.

01-22-2002, 10:46 PM	#1
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	The deed of the three friends I remember reading once on the Internet exactly how far, and in how much time, Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli run in pursuit of the Orcs that captured M & P. Anybody have that info? I remember it being a pretty ridiculous distance, expecially for Gimli on his stubby little Dwarf legs running with two 6'8" whippets, although you get the feeling that Aragorn and Legolas could have run non-stop if not for Master Sluggard. __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

01-22-2002, 10:52 PM	#2
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	Re: "Master Sluggard" You must really enjoy stirring up trouble, huh? __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-22-2002, 11:00 PM	#3
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	Re: Master Sluggard Hey, blame the Elf! That's a direct quote! __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

01-22-2002, 11:06 PM	#4
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	Good volley!! __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-23-2002, 12:13 AM	#6
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	I looked it up, and a league is (currently) 3 miles, so if Tolkein used consistent conversions, they travelled 135 miles on foot in 4 days, or about a marathon plus 5 miles per day for 4 days. Thank god they had the PowerBar of Middle-Earth, lembas. __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

01-23-2002, 12:24 AM	#7
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	For us normal people it may seem tremendous. But there are ultra marathons that people run that total 100 miles. The ironman competetion are 2 miles of swimmimg, biking 112 miles, then running a marathon. The top finishers come in between 8 and 9 hours. The female chinese marathon team runs a marathon every day before breakfast. For an Elf, THE Dunadan, and a Dwarf, the above seems like a cake walk. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-23-2002, 01:06 AM	#8
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Yup..after running 33.75 miles/day for 4 days...you'd start seeing strange things in the forest too... __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... Last edited by Arathorn : 01-23-2002 at 06:35 AM.

01-23-2002, 04:09 PM	#10
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	It's amazing that Legolas isn't even winded at any point. Some of that is probably due to the lembas' enhanced effect on his elven system, the other part is the natural strength and willpower of his race. The ability of armed Elves to cover huge distances in short times must have been a huge advantage to Elven war captains. __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

01-23-2002, 09:51 PM	#11
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	I guess the drug reference (there's another thread somewhere in this forum) is not limited to pipe weed but to lembas as well.... __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

01-23-2002, 10:08 PM	#12
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	How is lembas drug-related? __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

01-23-2002, 10:18 PM	#13
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Well seeing that people don't sleep much after taking it and get all suspicious, these are the same effects of a drug in the philippines called shabu or ice. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

01-24-2002, 03:51 PM	#14
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Lembas doesn't have a tendency to make people lose sleep or get suspicious. It has the healing power of sustenance and strength of will. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-24-2002, 04:46 PM	#15
Pailan Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: aisle 12, seat#2 Posts: 449	I think one should also factor in the gear the three kindreds were shouldering as well. They weren't dressed for a track meet. Weapons and bed rolls and water and food and looking for clues... all that makes for slow going plus carrying the grief of the fellowship falling apart. So 34 miles a day is a very good pace. This brings up the question so what is the fastest travelling method in ME? Horse? Winged steed of the Nazgul? Eagle? Oliphaunt? And what do you think the fastest speed would be? __________________ "Holy Entmoot, Batman!" "Who knows, Robin? This strange mixing of minds may be the greatest single sevice ever performed for humanity! Let's go, but, inconspicuosly, through the window. We'll use our Batropes. Our job is finished." Oh, btw, Frodo lives.

01-24-2002, 05:06 PM	#16
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	They were also struggling against some unseen force that repelled them and aided the Orcs (i guess the will of Saruman). As for the slickest wheels in Middle Earth, I doubt anything could outpace an Eagle, except for maybe Bill the Pony. Or my Fell Beast (pre-denoggination). __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

01-24-2002, 05:52 PM	#18
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	Oh. Foul_Dwimmerlaik... To be fair to everyone, I think this site should be *non-denogginational.* (Great word-coinage!!) __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-24-2002, 06:05 PM	#19
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	To be fair, I didn't coin it....it came from Kramer of Seinfeld, who, when discussing that lack of good nicknames for serial killers these days, threw out "Son of Dad" and "The Denogginator" as possible examples. "Son of Dad" cracks me up every time. __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

01-25-2002, 03:36 AM	#20
Churl Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 128	Another Seinfeld fan?&nbsp Great reference, Foul_Dwimmerlaik!&nbsp That wouldn’t, by any chance, be a pseudonym for "Arthur Vandelay," would it? And “non-denogginational,” ragamuffin&nbsp…&nbsp?&nbsp I’m still laughing. Last edited by Churl : 01-25-2002 at 03:42 AM.

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