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Old 01-17-2002, 08:30 PM   #21
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I guess there was NEVER peace in the dungeons of Angband and Utumno.....
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Old 01-17-2002, 10:46 PM   #22
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As far as fading goes. Once the Sun rose ME was always decaying, despite the best efforts by the Elves and those silly rings of theirs.
If I recall correctly, Tolkien wrote (someplace I cannot recall, unfortunately) that, after the Rings were made, the Elves experienced Time's decay at a rate of about 10 years for every 1,000.
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Old 01-17-2002, 10:52 PM   #23
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If I recall correctly, Tolkien wrote (someplace I cannot recall, unfortunately) that, after the Rings were made, the Elves experienced Time's decay at a rate of about 10 years for every 1,000.

I read a similar quote somewhere. however I thought it was in one of your essays. And it was my understanding that not only the elves experienced this time lapse, but the local environment as well.

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Old 01-17-2002, 11:00 PM   #24
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It is suggested in PoME, Appendix on Languages, The Languages at the End of the Third Age, paragrph 12.
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Old 01-24-2002, 09:44 PM   #25
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Well Tolkien assumes there'll be a messianic age so that'll be peaceful, but the elves fate is unknown.
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