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Old 01-15-2002, 09:31 PM   #41
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What's with that?
I mean, even if they are wrong, you can still be a friend.

I.E. I consider inoldonil to be a g0ood friend, and He's wrong all the time!

Of course, being such a good friend as I am, I'm more than happy to tell him.

But, how do you feel (Mrs. Starr polish) about the fact that, if what you believe is true, your friends are on thier way to a eternity of suffering? That would (and does) make me feel awful.
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Old 01-15-2002, 10:15 PM   #42
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It does pain me greatly, and I've talked to all of them about it. I've even written a poem directed at one of my closest and most preciousss friends about how I feel about that very subject! I pray about and for them, but if I come off as I'm trying to 'convert' them, I'll just push them farther away.

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Old 01-15-2002, 10:48 PM   #43
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my brother became a raelian after several years of practising wicca, which has made me fairly tolerant to other peoples beliefs.

but anyway - how did a discussion on the diets of hobbits and elves (and gollum! blech!) turn into a religious discussion?

i don't think my diet's very elvish - i just had a big bowl of cocopops *burp*
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Old 01-15-2002, 11:01 PM   #44
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I was thinking the same thing! Hehe.
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Old 01-16-2002, 11:23 AM   #45
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you know, afro-elf, I'm not familiar with any claim that the Magyar language(s) is/are branched off from Finno-Ugaric. Interesting, considering their ancestral home....
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Old 01-16-2002, 11:25 AM   #46
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Okay, okay, no unending suffering discussion, folks, back to the subject at hand.....

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