09-28-2003, 09:54 PM | #1 |
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Southern Elves?
Do you think that Elves exist is the southern parts of middle earth? If so, what do you think they are like. I think they might be a bit like the ancient Egyptions.
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09-28-2003, 11:21 PM | #3 |
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The south and east of ME were dominated by Sauron during much of the 2nd & third ages, and heavily influence or control by Morgoth during much of the first. This would make them unhealthy and unattravtive for Elves.
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Morgoth off and on influence or controled most of ME during parts of first Age. His control of all ME(strongest in the North) was interupted shortly after the wakening of the Elves, and thus did not long affect their settlement. After after his return, his direct personall power was significantly contained in Angband and North of the Iron Mountains and Grey Mountains, because of the Eldar containing him, and in the rest of ME he wiled a more partial power or influnce through control of corrupted tribes of men, which varied from place to place, and grew stronger through the few hundred years of his return to ME. Thus the Elves in the rest of ME would have some ability to hold out for the last 500 or so years of the First age while most of his attention was on Beleriand. Thing got a lot tougher for the Elves in the East and the south during the thousands of years of Sauron great power or domination in the East and South, which still had some period of relief during his sojurn in numenor and after his body was destroyed at the end of the 2nd age.
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Egyptians????????
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Y'all should know that there are Southern Elves.
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I meant in culture and in the way they dress. I think that they would wear more white linens in the style of the Egyptians, along with having darker complections and hair.
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...*thinks of AE... i varnelda, 'Baranedhel', i quendë Entmooton arwa vanya, varnë helma* Elves are described as having fair skin by JRRT, with the possible hair colors of blonde, black, and red (which was not common). Last edited by Ruinel : 10-01-2003 at 11:50 AM. |
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What about the Nandor? One of the first groups of the Teleri/Lindar to abandon the journey to Aman; I think they lived around the southern end of the Hithaeglir next to Anduin(...?).
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ME to the south of the LoTR map is 3-4 times the size of the LoTR mao, ME to the east and south east is yet larger.
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