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[Katie of the Golden Wood]

Originally posted by bropous

I will be seeing Return of the King. I will still be very disgusted when I walk out of the theatre.

First of all, your opinion is a bit early. I don't know why you refuse to give the film a chance. Maybe you think yourself a "better" fan by saying over and over again how PJ is an idiot for even creating a screenplay instead of just having the characters read out of books. But movies aren't books. They have to be handled differently, and just because some changes have to be made, is now reason to deride a fine director, insisting he was only out to make a cheap, Hollywood action movie.

Katie

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Katie of the Golden Wood
First of all, your opinion is a bit early. I don't know why you refuse to give the film a chance. Maybe you think yourself a "better" fan by saying over and over again how PJ is an idiot for even creating a screenplay instead of just having the characters read out of books. But movies aren't books. They have to be handled differently, and just because some changes have to be made, is now reason to deride a fine director, insisting he was only out to make a cheap, Hollywood action movie.

If you read his threads from two years ago - you will see that he was a HUGE fan of the movies. That him and I used to get into heated arguments all the time about Jackson's films. He has had his eyes opened on the quality of the films based on past history.

I saw FotR and it was an action film, TT - more action than anything - going so far as to even give us that damn exorcism scene. Based on past history - we don't expect much from jackson's films - other than good eye candy. If your into eyecandy - good for you. We and I inparticular - wanted a more intelligent movie. jackson made an action flick.

[Katie of the Golden Wood]

I can see where you're coming from, especially with TTT, but I think it is more of a war movie than an action movie. An action movie is car chases and gun fights. A war movie is life or death, small people fighting just to survive, go home, and live as they always have. However, one thing I didn't like much about TTT was the increased battle scences downplayed the role of Frodo and Sam. From whats been said about ROTK (from independent reviewers not associated with PJ), the movie is centered on the hobbits, just like Tolkien did.
It's going to take a whole lot to make my believe that these movies aren't of extremely high quality.

Katie

[Valandil]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Yes - there are little BB's running around now.

But jd, didn't you know...??? Lizra is BB, I'm BB...

WE'RE ALL BB!!!!

BWAHHAHAHAHAAHH!!!

...'cept you and Ruinel.

Everything else is just a big pretense...

[Black Breathalizer]

Sorry for the Matrix reference on a LOTR films forum, but...

I'm feeling like Agent Smith!!!

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Katie of the Golden Wood
I can see where you're coming from, especially with TTT, but I think it is more of a war movie than an action movie. An action movie is car chases and gun fights. A war movie is life or death, small people fighting just to survive, go home, and live as they always have.

That isnt' just what determines an action movie. Termrinator 3 is an action movie, XXX is an action movie, Rambo - action movie.

However, one thing I didn't like much about TTT was the increased battle scences downplayed the role of Frodo and Sam. From whats been said about ROTK (from independent reviewers not associated with PJ), the movie is centered on the hobbits, just like Tolkien did.

All those reviewers have had direct association with jackson for years - and have been given special backstage access becuase they support his movies. From all the stuff shown on the previews - the majority of RotK revolves around Aragorn gaining his thrown and the overthrow of Sauron.

It's going to take a whole lot to make my believe that these movies aren't of extremely high quality.

Maybe after a few years and all the hype dies down. After jackson isn't out there going "you like them, you will love them, we did everythign we could to make them the absolute best". Then maybe you will be able to look at the books and look at the movies and realize how off the mark he was with them. Propaganda is a hard thing to resist.

Yeah BB - you are like Agent Smith - a VIRUS.

[Dúnedain]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
All those reviewers have had direct association with jackson for years - and have been given special backstage access becuase they support his movies. From all the stuff shown on the previews - the majority of RotK revolves around Aragorn gaining his thrown and the overthrow of Sauron.

Uhhh no. When you have a SAG card and are a member of the acting community you get to go to pre-sceeninings and advanced shows. So you are saying everyone with SAG cards are in cahoots with PJ?