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(What IS this new habit of unburying 2 to 3 year old posts? It's so cool!
 )About Denethor, though- I don't think he was "bad" in the sense that he was a willfully not good person. He was just a very confused who fell into something too strong for him and came off the worse because of it. It, for me, showed once again how pride can ruin normal humans. BTW- I don't remember Feanor as ever really being implied as bad in the Sil. or UT. I just understood him to be VERY VERY tragic and EXTREMELY unlucky.
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08-15-2002, 06:42 PM
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I agree that Denethor is flawed, perhaps even highly so. Yet he lived with despair and dread for so long; how could he be well-adjusted? The fact that many of us can empathize with him, even though we don't like him, is testament to Professor T's talent.
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Re: Denethor
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04-20-2003, 09:56 AM
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 I agree with your post though. Doesn't mean I like him, tho. My poor beloved Faramir- not you Jonathan (Lalaith's little Faramir) |
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04-20-2003, 02:38 PM
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In the upcoming film, I hope Denethor will not be described as a villain. It's my opinion that he doesn't deserve that. Peter Jackson can make him a little wicked, but he shouldn't make him an evil person comparable with let's say Saruman.
On the other hand, I hope he's really mean to Faramir in RotK. Faramir might be my favourite character, but I think it will spice him up a little if Denethor is nasty to him.
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It can be a little confusing when there's two LotR forums, one for the books and one for the movies. That makes it impossible to have a thread concerning everything about Denethor, for example.
But maybe that's why there is a Middle-Earth forum. Are you obliged to move this whole thread to the ME forum now, because of my post?
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