Why Are Dwarves Like Gimili Short?

JCL2 · 03-16-2003, 01:55 PM

WHY ARE MOST DWARVES SHORT?IS THAT WHAT TOLKEIN THOUGHT?

Shadowfax · 03-16-2003, 02:02 PM

Yes, that is what Tolkien "thought". His made his dwarves short.

JCL2 · 03-16-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Shadowfax
Yes, that is what Tolkien "thought". His made his dwarves short.

SO I WAS RIGHT.

BeardofPants · 03-16-2003, 02:45 PM

No, actually aliens came down and made Tolkien write about short dwarves.

Varda Oiolosseo · 03-16-2003, 03:26 PM

lol!!

TheRingIsMine · 03-16-2003, 03:33 PM

does that make me a dwarf?

JCL2 · 03-16-2003, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by TheRingIsMine
does that make me a dwarf?

no it doesnt.

TheRingIsMine · 03-16-2003, 03:43 PM

but i am a hobbit!

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-16-2003, 04:02 PM

Um....dwarves are short.

PADLOCK!!

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-16-2003, 04:04 PM

P. S. It's Gimli, not Gimili.

Lady of Rohan · 03-16-2003, 04:25 PM

I know this! I read it! But it is fromthe Silmarilion. Aule made dwarves, but Iluvator wanted to make his elves the first borns so Aule got upset, and started to pund on the dwarves to try and kill them. The just shrunk a bit, instead of dying, then Iluvator came down and told Aule to stop, and just make the dwarves sleep until he made his first borns come alive. The story is actually much longer, that is just a modified version, and it probab;y isn't even right.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-16-2003, 04:31 PM

Um...not quite right...

Actually they were made by Aule. And he didn't actually pound them with his hammer; he took up his hammer to crush them, but they cowered before them, something they would not have done except that Iluvatar gave his approval by giving them life.

They were short because Aule's memory of the Children was rather vague, and His Children were not as the Children of Iluvatar as a result.

Heather Wooltoes · 03-16-2003, 04:33 PM

There is a 6'3 dwarf named Carrot in Terry Pratchetts DiscWorld book "Guards Guards" Terry pokes a little fun at LOTR too. FUUUUNNNYY!!!!

I highly reccomend the series to anyone with a love of fantasy and a sense of humor

Lady of Rohan · 03-16-2003, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Um...not quite right...

Actually they were made by Aule. And he didn't actually pound them with his hammer; he took up his hammer to crush them, but they cowered before them, something they would not have done except that Iluvatar gave his approval by giving them life.

They were short because Aule's memory of the Children was rather vague, and His Children were not as the Children of Iluvatar as a result.

AH, that sucks! And I thought that that was the one sence that I actually understood in the book. Well not any more. Oh well, it is bound to get easier as it goes on right?

*goes of muttering about know it alls.....* j/k

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-16-2003, 05:08 PM

Don't despair. I utterly floundered when I first tried to read it.

**crickhollow** · 03-16-2003, 07:08 PM

As Gwaimir so eloquently put it:

PADLOCK!!!

03-16-2003, 01:55 PM	#1
JCL2 Hobbit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In my own little world! Posts: 29	Why Are Dwarves Like Gimili Short? WHY ARE MOST DWARVES SHORT?IS THAT WHAT TOLKEIN THOUGHT?

03-16-2003, 02:02 PM	#2
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	Yes, that is what Tolkien "thought". His made his dwarves short. __________________ Jesus saved me "To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child" (Cicero, 106-43 B.C.) "Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth" (Picasso)

03-16-2003, 02:45 PM	#4
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	No, actually aliens came down and made Tolkien write about short dwarves. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

03-16-2003, 03:33 PM	#6
TheRingIsMine Sapling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: outer space Posts: 12	does that make me a dwarf? __________________ Gandalf: I liked white better. Elrond: Many Elves and many mighty Men and many of their friends, had perished in the war Merry: I'm hungry, what is the time? ~Peace~

03-16-2003, 03:43 PM	#8
TheRingIsMine Sapling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: outer space Posts: 12	but i am a hobbit! __________________ Gandalf: I liked white better. Elrond: Many Elves and many mighty Men and many of their friends, had perished in the war Merry: I'm hungry, what is the time? ~Peace~

03-16-2003, 03:26 PM	#5
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	lol!!

03-16-2003, 04:02 PM	#9
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Um....dwarves are short. PADLOCK!! __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-16-2003, 04:04 PM	#10
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	P. S. It's Gimli, not Gimili. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-16-2003, 04:25 PM	#11
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	I know this! I read it! But it is fromthe Silmarilion. Aule made dwarves, but Iluvator wanted to make his elves the first borns so Aule got upset, and started to pund on the dwarves to try and kill them. The just shrunk a bit, instead of dying, then Iluvator came down and told Aule to stop, and just make the dwarves sleep until he made his first borns come alive. The story is actually much longer, that is just a modified version, and it probab;y isn't even right. Last edited by Lady of Rohan : 03-16-2003 at 04:29 PM.

03-16-2003, 04:31 PM	#12
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Um...not quite right... Actually they were made by Aule. And he didn't actually pound them with his hammer; he took up his hammer to crush them, but they cowered before them, something they would not have done except that Iluvatar gave his approval by giving them life. They were short because Aule's memory of the Children was rather vague, and His Children were not as the Children of Iluvatar as a result. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-16-2003, 04:33 PM	#13
Heather Wooltoes Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 182	There is a 6'3 dwarf named Carrot in Terry Pratchetts DiscWorld book "Guards Guards" Terry pokes a little fun at LOTR too. FUUUUNNNYY!!!! I highly reccomend the series to anyone with a love of fantasy and a sense of humor __________________ Sometimes the Dragon Wins. Don't p*** me off.....I'm running out of places to hide the bodies!

03-16-2003, 05:08 PM	#15
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Don't despair. I utterly floundered when I first tried to read it. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-16-2003, 07:08 PM	#16
crickhollow The Buckleberry Fairy/Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington State again (I miss Texas). Posts: 1,345	As Gwaimir so eloquently put it: PADLOCK!!! __________________ A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of the Sun.

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