Hobbits origins

tharkun27 · 09-22-2002, 10:57 PM

I was re-reading the Sil lately and had a strange thought. Aule created the dwarves... What if Manwe created the hobbits. I've read almost all Tolkien in print and never really came across an explanation of their origin. Can anybody offer some information on this topic? And what do you think of my idea? Thanks.

Lefty Scaevola · 09-22-2002, 11:00 PM

Supposedly they are a variant of men. A race (subspecoes) or perhaps another species.

***Khamûl*** · 09-22-2002, 11:38 PM

There is a thread about hobbit origins here. Because it is an old thread, I guess this one can remain open for some fresh discussion. Sister Golden Hair might want this moved to the Middle-Earth forum, though.

Lanelf · 09-23-2002, 12:33 AM

I was a bit irritated when the Sil didn't explain where they came from... I'd agree that they're probably part Men, but then wouldn't you think they'd have to be something like Men/Dwarf hybrids?

I don't know, but that's how I'd theorise they got the height... Maybe I'm just stuck on that aspect of them. They definitely have fantastic metabolisms; seven meals a day!

Lanelf.

Lefty Scaevola · 09-23-2002, 09:24 AM

Perhaps evolution works more radily in ME and a race of men can adapt for a reduced stature and other charges in just a few thousand years. They could some discarded genectic engineering project of Morgoth.

Lefty Scaevola · 09-23-2002, 09:26 AM

I have not yet got the "The peoples of ME" in The history of ME, but I would expect if there were a definitive answer there, we would have seen it posted here already.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 09-23-2002, 02:50 PM

Thank you Khamul. Moving to the Middle-earth forum.

09-22-2002, 10:57 PM	#1
tharkun27 Sapling Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ny Posts: 14	Hobbits origins I was re-reading the Sil lately and had a strange thought. Aule created the dwarves... What if Manwe created the hobbits. I've read almost all Tolkien in print and never really came across an explanation of their origin. Can anybody offer some information on this topic? And what do you think of my idea? Thanks.

09-22-2002, 11:38 PM	#3
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	There is a thread about hobbit origins here. Because it is an old thread, I guess this one can remain open for some fresh discussion. Sister Golden Hair might want this moved to the Middle-Earth forum, though. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

09-23-2002, 12:33 AM	#4
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	I was a bit irritated when the Sil didn't explain where they came from... I'd agree that they're probably part Men, but then wouldn't you think they'd have to be something like Men/Dwarf hybrids? I don't know, but that's how I'd theorise they got the height... Maybe I'm just stuck on that aspect of them. They definitely have fantastic metabolisms; seven meals a day! Lanelf. __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

09-23-2002, 09:24 AM	#5
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	Perhaps evolution works more radily in ME and a race of men can adapt for a reduced stature and other charges in just a few thousand years. They could some discarded genectic engineering project of Morgoth. Last edited by Lefty Scaevola : 09-23-2002 at 09:46 AM.

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09-22-2002, 11:00 PM	#2
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	Supposedly they are a variant of men. A race (subspecoes) or perhaps another species.

09-23-2002, 09:26 AM	#6
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	I have not yet got the "The peoples of ME" in The history of ME, but I would expect if there were a definitive answer there, we would have seen it posted here already.

09-23-2002, 02:50 PM	#7
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Thank you Khamul. Moving to the Middle-earth forum.