how do you see these places

afro-elf · 07-27-2002, 12:35 PM

1) Annuminas before its desertion
2) Fornost before its fall
3) the halls of Thrandruil
4) The grey havens

I think great marble-like structures for them all. To tired to say much else.

StrawberryIcecream · 07-27-2002, 04:49 PM

Well ive always had a really strong image fo the grey havens.

Its kind of a very quiet natural place, quite like lothlorien i suppose. and there is white mist in the mornings all over the floor making it really beautiful. and all the people just are happy. sappy i know, but thats what i see.

Rána Eressëa · 07-27-2002, 06:29 PM

I would picture the people at the Grey Havens as sad, seeing as how a good deal of Elves go there to sail away, never to be seen again, like all the magic and beauty is to pass away with them.

Renille · 07-28-2002, 12:21 AM

I've always thought of Thranduil's abode as a bigger, rather green Lothlorien. A whole big network of tree dwellings with hidden vaults for prisons in hollow trees. The throne room is the highest platform.

The grey havens are very grey. (duh) I've always imagined them as a foggy place which one would only come to at night or in the early morning.I've always had the weird thought that once the ships reached the edge of the peir, they were gone for good,out of anyone's sight or vision...almost magically vanished.

As for the other two places, I'll have to read the Silm. again before I have the faintest remembrance as to what they are!

Radagast The Brown · 07-28-2002, 03:00 PM

I really didn't try to imagine these places..

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As for the other two places, I'll have to read the Silm. again before I have the faintest remembrance as to what they are!

I have a program that suppose to translate English to Hebrew, but i found that it's translate Qunia to Deutsch, and have a tolkien gallery too!

that's nice no?

afro-elf · 07-29-2002, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by Renille
I've always thought of Thranduil's abode as a bigger, rather green Lothlorien. A whole big network of tree dwellings with hidden vaults for prisons in hollow trees. The throne room is the highest platform.

The grey havens are very grey. (duh) I've always imagined them as a foggy place which one would only come to at night or in the early morning.I've always had the weird thought that once the ships reached the edge of the peir, they were gone for good,out of anyone's sight or vision...almost magically vanished.

As for the other two places, I'll have to read the Silm. again before I have the faintest remembrance as to what they are!

thrandruil's realm "main dwelling" is an underground cave complex

Renille · 07-29-2002, 08:23 PM

OOPS again. I haven't read the Hobbit for awhile either. Can anyone tell?

But why would elves live underground? They couldn't even see the stars.

This is making no sense at all.

afro-elf · 07-31-2002, 12:13 AM

elves have often lived underground

Finrod and thingol's realms were underground too.

Renille · 07-31-2002, 12:19 PM

Thank you for helping me out with that, Afro-Elf. Yes, I seem to remember elven underground dwellings now. Now I must go check out the Silm. again from the library and read all about them once again!

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 07-31-2002, 12:28 PM

It was not natural for the Elves to live underground and they only did so in great need, for protection from the evil forces, especially in the First Age. They prefered the open fields, green grass, and trees. They had a great love for nature.

galadriel · 07-31-2002, 09:54 PM

I'll pass on the first two, because I really have no idea....

the halls of Thranduil - big and impressive caves, but I can imagine it gets a little gloomy. Lots of runes on the walls, attempts at making the place beautiful, with pillars and carvings and skylights, but it would never live up to its predecessor, Menegroth. Some gold, silver, and bronze; Thranduil liked shiny things (gold, jewels, etc), but he didn't have an ample supply of them.

The grey havens - gray beaches and gray-white misty inlets, white buildings overlooking the Sea where the Cirdan and his buddies live. Large white boats gracing the harbor. A gray dock. Everything smells like salt. Lots of cool fog, giving it a dreamlike quality. The dim sun casting a half-light upon everything. There is something very compelling about the Sea; it must be hard to look away from. Not only is it vast and beautiful, but it's also the road to an entirely different world, so to speak.

afro-elf · 08-01-2002, 01:02 AM

nice pictures

Starr Polish · 08-01-2002, 03:20 AM

When I first read The Hobbit, the places where they kept the dwarves I pictured as underground, but they where connected to a great winding hall made of live trees, the spaces filled with...something. And there was a river or stream flowing through the hall.

Ñólendil · 08-03-2002, 02:28 AM

I'm much better at imagining people than places. The opposite was true of Tolkien, so he said.

Palanturiel · 08-05-2002, 12:44 AM

i dont have trouble visualizing places, but i have trouble putting my own thoughts into words. i mean i can say stuff like biw white buildings, when i go back and read it, i dont get the same picture i started with in my head.

Starr Polish · 08-05-2002, 12:45 AM

I have the same problem, Palanturiel.

Gilrond · 09-10-2002, 05:49 PM

I imagine the quays hewn into the cliffs with the surf breaking over them; a mist wreathing the elven ships and abodes overlooking the sea; dusk twilight casting everything in multi-hued greys...

***Rían*** · 09-10-2002, 07:57 PM

I imagined cliffs at the havens, too. I can see Frodo and co. walking along a wide open space with scattered tall trees, then suddenly reaching the top of the cliff and looking down into the havens - a bunch of small, curvy coves with beautiful ships waiting. Then climbing down stairs carved in the cliffs and ... leaving Middle Earth forever ...

There is a place up the coast from me a bit like that - big tall eucalyptus trees blowing in the wind from the ocean on top of cliffs, overlooking little sandy coves with nice rocks to climb on.

07-27-2002, 12:35 PM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	how do you see these places 1) Annuminas before its desertion 2) Fornost before its fall 3) the halls of Thrandruil 4) The grey havens I think great marble-like structures for them all. To tired to say much else. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-27-2002, 04:49 PM	#2
StrawberryIcecream Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In my jeans Posts: 915	Well ive always had a really strong image fo the grey havens. Its kind of a very quiet natural place, quite like lothlorien i suppose. and there is white mist in the mornings all over the floor making it really beautiful. and all the people just are happy. sappy i know, but thats what i see. __________________ www.foolofatook.com for all you pippin's out there.

07-28-2002, 12:21 AM	#4
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	I've always thought of Thranduil's abode as a bigger, rather green Lothlorien. A whole big network of tree dwellings with hidden vaults for prisons in hollow trees. The throne room is the highest platform. The grey havens are very grey. (duh) I've always imagined them as a foggy place which one would only come to at night or in the early morning.I've always had the weird thought that once the ships reached the edge of the peir, they were gone for good,out of anyone's sight or vision...almost magically vanished. As for the other two places, I'll have to read the Silm. again before I have the faintest remembrance as to what they are! __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

07-29-2002, 08:23 PM	#7
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	OOPS again. I haven't read the Hobbit for awhile either. Can anyone tell? But why would elves live underground? They couldn't even see the stars. This is making no sense at all. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

07-31-2002, 12:13 AM	#8
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	elves have often lived underground Finrod and thingol's realms were underground too. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

07-27-2002, 06:29 PM	#3
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I would picture the people at the Grey Havens as sad, seeing as how a good deal of Elves go there to sail away, never to be seen again, like all the magic and beauty is to pass away with them.

07-31-2002, 12:19 PM	#9
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	Thank you for helping me out with that, Afro-Elf. Yes, I seem to remember elven underground dwellings now. Now I must go check out the Silm. again from the library and read all about them once again! __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

07-31-2002, 12:28 PM	#10
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	It was not natural for the Elves to live underground and they only did so in great need, for protection from the evil forces, especially in the First Age. They prefered the open fields, green grass, and trees. They had a great love for nature.

07-31-2002, 09:54 PM	#11
galadriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: a castle made of clouds Posts: 459	I'll pass on the first two, because I really have no idea.... the halls of Thranduil - big and impressive caves, but I can imagine it gets a little gloomy. Lots of runes on the walls, attempts at making the place beautiful, with pillars and carvings and skylights, but it would never live up to its predecessor, Menegroth. Some gold, silver, and bronze; Thranduil liked shiny things (gold, jewels, etc), but he didn't have an ample supply of them. The grey havens - gray beaches and gray-white misty inlets, white buildings overlooking the Sea where the Cirdan and his buddies live. Large white boats gracing the harbor. A gray dock. Everything smells like salt. Lots of cool fog, giving it a dreamlike quality. The dim sun casting a half-light upon everything. There is something very compelling about the Sea; it must be hard to look away from. Not only is it vast and beautiful, but it's also the road to an entirely different world, so to speak. __________________ Human kind cannot bear very much reality. dreamflower - for all things Lady Galadriel

08-01-2002, 01:02 AM	#12
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	nice pictures __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-01-2002, 03:20 AM	#13
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	When I first read The Hobbit, the places where they kept the dwarves I pictured as underground, but they where connected to a great winding hall made of live trees, the spaces filled with...something. And there was a river or stream flowing through the hall. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

08-03-2002, 02:28 AM	#14
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	I'm much better at imagining people than places. The opposite was true of Tolkien, so he said. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

08-05-2002, 12:44 AM	#15
Palanturiel Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow... Posts: 24	i dont have trouble visualizing places, but i have trouble putting my own thoughts into words. i mean i can say stuff like biw white buildings, when i go back and read it, i dont get the same picture i started with in my head. __________________ ~Palanturiel Sindarin Elf of Northern Mirkwood ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ History became legend... Legend became myth... And some things that should not have been forgotten... were lost... Thus the third age of middle-earth began. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YODA LIVES! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Remember, people! We are all unique! Just like everybody else!

08-05-2002, 12:45 AM	#16
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I have the same problem, Palanturiel. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

09-10-2002, 05:49 PM	#17
Gilrond Enting Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 52	Mithlond... I imagine the quays hewn into the cliffs with the surf breaking over them; a mist wreathing the elven ships and abodes overlooking the sea; dusk twilight casting everything in multi-hued greys...

09-10-2002, 07:57 PM	#18
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	I imagined cliffs at the havens, too. I can see Frodo and co. walking along a wide open space with scattered tall trees, then suddenly reaching the top of the cliff and looking down into the havens - a bunch of small, curvy coves with beautiful ships waiting. Then climbing down stairs carved in the cliffs and ... leaving Middle Earth forever ... There is a place up the coast from me a bit like that - big tall eucalyptus trees blowing in the wind from the ocean on top of cliffs, overlooking little sandy coves with nice rocks to climb on. __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

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