The ending

Gamigar · 03-15-2003, 12:48 PM

Does anyone else think that LotR should've continued after the end?{personally i never really wanted it to end}

Coney · 03-15-2003, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Gamigar
Does anyone else think that LotR should've continued after the end?{personally i never really wanted it to end}

Well, the good man spent a major part of his life trying to compile the complete story, then his son spent a good part of his life trying to turn tons of notes into a comprehensilbe form....I suppose we can't ask much more that that.

But yes I agree, everytime I read LotR I wish for more *sigh*

Artanis · 03-15-2003, 01:31 PM

Tolkien sais himself he thought the book was too short. But I think he would rather have put more stuff into the story that was already there, filled in the blanks a bit more perhaps, rather than continued it.

ArwenEvenstar · 03-15-2003, 09:01 PM

yeah, like who really is Tom Bombadil

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-15-2003, 09:04 PM

I don't really think Tolkien would have wanted to answer that question. I think he was a deliberate enigma.

cassiopeia · 03-16-2003, 12:41 AM

Well were at the end of the sixth age or in the seventh, so you can imagine the story is still going, with Men ruling the world.

Legolas · 03-16-2003, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by cassiopeia
Well were at the end of the sixth age or in the seventh, so you can imagine the story is still going, with Men ruling the world.

And in the 8th or the 9th age, elves and dwarves and ents will return to the world... when some mad proffessor decides to clone them from humans and trees

Elf Girl · 03-16-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Legolas
And in the 8th or the 9th age, elves and dwarves and ents will return to the world... when some mad proffessor decides to clone them from humans and trees

A few hundred of the Elves are still here, actually. Me for example.

Starr Polish · 03-16-2003, 12:45 PM

You must be pretty transparent then, Elf Girl, since elves fade as men's power becomes stronger.

Celebriel · 03-16-2003, 03:59 PM

I think the LOTR was long enough. Sure, Tolkien could have written more about Men in a separate book. But, the war of the Ring had ended in LOTR.

I like how he kept things to himself, revealing only enough to get his point across, i.e. Tom Bombadil. We don't have to know everything about Tom Bom, Tolkien realized that and I love him for it.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-16-2003, 04:20 PM

I've heard people talk about the sixth and seventh Age, but I always just assumed that we were still in the Fourth Age. Am I wrong?

cassiopeia · 03-17-2003, 01:49 AM

Tsk, tsk Gwaimir, I thought you had the Letters. Check the footnote to letter #211.

Tolkien did try to write a sequel to the LOTR but he didn't get very far...

Linaewen · 03-17-2003, 08:12 AM

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Tolkien did try to write a sequel to the LOTR but he didn't get very far...

When was it set? Does he say so?

Dunadan · 03-17-2003, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Gamigar
Does anyone else think that LotR should've continued after the end?{personally i never really wanted it to end}

NO! The ending is great: one of the best in literature. It leaves us with the same sense of loss that Frodo had. Brilliant stuff.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-17-2003, 10:05 AM

*Runs to grab Letters*

D'oh!

Melko Belcha · 03-17-2003, 11:57 AM

HOME volume 9 Sauron Defeated has the original last chapter that was written for LOTR but Tolkien took out at the last minute.

Gamigar · 03-17-2003, 04:41 PM

sorry dunadan, i ment no offence. i think its one of the best too. i would just like to know more.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-17-2003, 04:57 PM

Then might I suggest the Hobbit and the Silmarillion?

Gamigar · 03-17-2003, 05:19 PM

I read the hobbit first of all and i am currently reading the silmarillion.

cassiopeia · 03-17-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
When was it set? Does he say so?

It is set about 100 years after the defeat of Sauron, and takes place in Gondor. I haven't read it yet, but you can find it (it's called The New Shadow) in HOME 12, The Peoples of Middle Earth.

03-15-2003, 12:48 PM	#1
Gamigar Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere between here and there Posts: 116	The ending Does anyone else think that LotR should've continued after the end?{personally i never really wanted it to end}

03-15-2003, 01:31 PM	#3
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Tolkien sais himself he thought the book was too short. But I think he would rather have put more stuff into the story that was already there, filled in the blanks a bit more perhaps, rather than continued it. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

03-15-2003, 09:01 PM	#4
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	yeah, like who really is Tom Bombadil __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

03-15-2003, 09:04 PM	#5
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I don't really think Tolkien would have wanted to answer that question. I think he was a deliberate enigma. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-16-2003, 12:41 AM	#6
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	Well were at the end of the sixth age or in the seventh, so you can imagine the story is still going, with Men ruling the world. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

03-16-2003, 12:45 PM	#9
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	You must be pretty transparent then, Elf Girl, since elves fade as men's power becomes stronger. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-16-2003, 03:59 PM	#10
Celebriel Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 139	I think the LOTR was long enough. Sure, Tolkien could have written more about Men in a separate book. But, the war of the Ring had ended in LOTR. I like how he kept things to himself, revealing only enough to get his point across, i.e. Tom Bombadil. We don't have to know everything about Tom Bom, Tolkien realized that and I love him for it. __________________ ~ Celebriel ~ Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes. ~ __________________

03-16-2003, 04:20 PM	#11
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I've heard people talk about the sixth and seventh Age, but I always just assumed that we were still in the Fourth Age. Am I wrong? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-17-2003, 01:49 AM	#12
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	Tsk, tsk Gwaimir, I thought you had the Letters. Check the footnote to letter #211. Tolkien did try to write a sequel to the LOTR but he didn't get very far... __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

03-17-2003, 10:05 AM	#15
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Runs to grab Letters D'oh! __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-17-2003, 11:57 AM	#16
Melko Belcha Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Behind the Walls of Night Posts: 286	HOME volume 9 Sauron Defeated has the original last chapter that was written for LOTR but Tolkien took out at the last minute.

03-17-2003, 04:41 PM	#17
Gamigar Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere between here and there Posts: 116	sorry dunadan, i ment no offence. i think its one of the best too. i would just like to know more.

03-17-2003, 04:57 PM	#18
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Then might I suggest the Hobbit and the Silmarillion? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-17-2003, 05:19 PM	#19
Gamigar Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere between here and there Posts: 116	I read the hobbit first of all and i am currently reading the silmarillion.

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