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06-20-2006, 11:35 AM | #1 |
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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Egypt is the origin of Christianity, Judaism & Islam
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd7/...iInterview.mp3
Listen to this audio link above before you reply!!! Or check out his website at: http://www.ossama-alsaadawi.com/_private/Opinions.htm (edited to replace with link from below) As you see in topic, I firmly believe Egypt is the origin of christianity and the kings of egypt are the famous names from the bible eg. Aaron, moses, Noah and Abraham was the founding king of egypt; the were not pagans at all, the were the first Monotheist. Jesus was Osiris!!!
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06-20-2006, 12:07 PM | #2 |
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You could join in the discussions in the "Da Vinci" thread in the lit forum...
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06-20-2006, 12:21 PM | #3 |
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This theory gets recycled ever so often, Tel. There were many dying and rising gods. Osiris is just one.
But the God of Abraham called him out of Ur of the Chaldees and he migrated. His descendants sojourned in Egypt and were made slaves and delivered. No doubt they had heard of Egyptian gods. But derivation is another process entirely. It wasn't Osirus who plagued the Egyptians and freed the Hebrews. It was "I AM".
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06-20-2006, 03:11 PM | #4 | |
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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Also, I have never heard this "theory" (which it is not, since it is the proper translations of the gliphs, not opinions) anywhere else, ever.
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
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06-20-2006, 12:24 PM | #5 | |
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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I want this topic to be specific on the subject of egypt.
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
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06-20-2006, 02:45 PM | #6 |
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06-20-2006, 02:50 PM | #7 |
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If your contention that christianity/judeaism has its roots in older religions then no kidding. Archetypes are irresistible to the human psyche.
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06-20-2006, 03:05 PM | #8 |
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The page won't open for me, but no doubt they are talking about Akhenaton (not sure of the transliteration) and his monotheism. I mention Linear B because it is the writing system that existed at the same time in Syria, and there are clay tablets that have been translated (through great effort!) that have pre-biblical materials. And this is far removed from Egypt. So any theory that doesn't include Syria is only partial, IMHO.
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06-20-2006, 03:23 PM | #9 | ||
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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Akhenaton, is not mentioned here at all sir; all that is just another smoke screen. Again, I also gave you a link to the site.
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
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06-20-2006, 03:27 PM | #10 | ||
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Darn it, I don't think this computer has the metaphorical cajones to open your link.
But... Jesus wasn't Egyptian... *is confused*
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06-20-2006, 03:29 PM | #11 | |
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
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06-25-2006, 10:46 AM | #12 |
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Ok Back To The Topic
Ah, a decent nights sleep and some pleasant topics on CBS Sunday Morning has carried me past the deadline by about 2 hrs.
NOW OPEN FOR BUSINESS KEEP IT CIVIL or risk closure again.
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06-20-2006, 03:35 PM | #13 |
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Or maybe they call him Amenhotep IV, the father of Tutenkamen, whose mother was Nefertitti?
King Tut erased the history books of all record of his father. The Habiri were brigands of that period in Syria. Amenhotep lost control of the region. The father god of polytheistic Canaan was Yahweh. The process by which one god worship takes over in a polytheistic culture is not uncommon throughout the world. It is usually done by conversion at sword point. The Canaanites were slaughtered in 1200 BC or so, not long after King Tut died. The gods of Canaan who were no longer worshipped were turned into demons or angels. Needless to say, a host of immoralities were blamed on the people who were slaughtered, and the revised history became the accepted truth. That's where Yahweh "came from". |
06-20-2006, 03:55 PM | #14 |
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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First of all, Nefertitti is not an egyptian name, her real name was in fact maryam; the mother of Mary mother of jesus. Mary even today is a common egytian name. Google "virgin and child" then "Isis and Horus," go images and you will see an instant connection.
All these egyptian names that you have heard are false, practically made up. Again, read the site or right click and download the linked file to your computer or control click if you have a mac. Below is another very helpful link on the site, better than the others I have given!!! http://www.ossama-alsaadawi.com/_private/Opinions.htm
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
06-22-2006, 06:58 PM | #15 | |
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The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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Where is your independent information of this issue besides what I have posted. Did, or did you not get this from the forum I am talking about or do I have to post the link here!!!!! What, your trying to be clever, play word games with a writer is a dangerous profession my friend, as you should well know by now.(please try not to insult my intelligence further)
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
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06-22-2006, 07:06 PM | #17 |
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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You still have not responded to my PM!!
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
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06-22-2006, 07:21 PM | #19 |
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Here is a link to some of de Greef's own work. This is what I call scholarly.
http://www.catchpenny.org/thoth/3arch.htm |
06-22-2006, 09:00 PM | #20 | |
The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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Again, why don't you post the whole forum...or should I?
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Proverbs 21:3 To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice. Ecclesiasticus 2:1-5 1 My son, if thou come to serve the Lord, prepare thy soul for temptation... ...4 Whatsoever is brought upon thee take cheerfully, and be patient when thou art changed to a low estate. 5 For gold is tried in the fire, and acceptable men in the furnace of adversity. Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; |
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