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12-06-2004, 04:17 PM
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Why Did Elros Choose A Mortal Life?
As many of you probably know, Elrond had a twin brother named Elros, they were known as the 'Half-Elven' because their father Earendil the Mariner was the son of Tuor(a man of the line of Huor) and Idril Cebrindal(an elfen Princess, the daughter of Turgon), and the twins mother was Elwing (the Grandaughter of Luthien and Beren). As you also might know, the Half-Elven were given the choice to be either mortal of Elfen because of thier blood, Elrond obviously chose an Elfen life-span, but Elros chose to be mortal and went on to be the first King of Numenor. So the question is....WHY?
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12-06-2004, 04:36 PM
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Well it is said that Earendiel's heart was always among men, and he only chose to be elven (not elfen!
 ) so he could live forever as a star of Varda. Maybe this was true for Elros (apart from he did live with men and choose the mortal life.)
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Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230 |
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12-06-2004, 05:08 PM
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Keep in mind that not EVERYONE wants to be an Elf!
 Don't know if JRRT really went into WHY Elros made the choice he did, but we could ask the inverse question of Elrond. Why did HE choose to be an Elf? Maybe the choice was given to them because Eru knew that they would make contrary choices, and that both kindreds would thus be enhanced - the Elves by Elrond, and Men by Elros. 
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12-06-2004, 05:19 PM
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There are many arguments that could be made. Why did Luthien accept the offer of mortality? Obviously for love. Is something similar so impossible?
Of course, that's just conjecture. Quote:
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Is it so strange that Elros might have preferred this to the suffering of the Noldor...? btw, Valandil, how's the Athrabeth coming?
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12-06-2004, 05:49 PM
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I agree with Elemmire, I think we shall remember that death was Iluvatar's gift to Men.
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 )!Will try to say something in that thread tomorrow...
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12-06-2004, 06:02 PM
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Hm. So... you get paid for this? That's like my mom... She used to spend half her day at work on a forum... Completely obsessed. It was quite funny (a college forum ). Don't know what ever happened with that.Gyaa... nothing more to add... Sorry for the OT. 
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12-06-2004, 07:14 PM
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Were Elros and Elrond even Noldorian???
oh yeah... he was, nevermind
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12-06-2004, 09:05 PM
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*twitch*
*twitchtwitch* *twitchtwitchtwitch* Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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01-07-2005, 04:20 PM
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I just happen to have read about this in the appendixes yesterday and yes he did choose a mortal life.
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01-07-2005, 04:26 PM
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i know, thats why i am asking the question WHY?
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