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01-30-2004, 08:42 PM | #1 |
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Joking about bombs on planes...
There was this episode recently in NY where this frenchman while his plane was getting ready to take off joked about having a bomb on the plane and that they were going to blow up. He was immediately arrested. He ended up spending 15 days in jail. He got off with a $600 fine.
He went back to France - it was just on French news and he, as well as their news, blamed it all on the US. He said made statements like "He just left a young soulless country and is very glad to be back in old europe where their is a soul and culture." I consider this guy to be a complete idiot. What person with an ounce of brains would say that he had a bomb on a plane - even if it was a joke? He had a diatribe of terrible things to say about the US and France is treating him like a hero. He will be on all their talk shows this evening and is scheduled to talk about the terrible US. Most Americans don't even see this - because they don't get French News. Whose fault do you think it is? Do you think it is the US's fault for arresting him or his fault for joking that there was a bomb on the plane and it was going to blow up? For those that can understand french - here is the newscast...French 2 - Le Journal 20 Heures - Janvier 30 You can watch it up to the intro - you will see F. Moulet - which is the guy's name.
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I don't know how he joked about it. Did he say "Hey, I have a bomb!" or was it more [ironic] "yeah right, and I go around carrying a bomb "? If there was even the slightest chance he might not have been joking then he should not have done it and is an idiot. If it was very ironic and there could be no doubt that he was joking then it was (IMO) an overreaction; but he's still an idiot.
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Of course it's his fault. You don't joke about such things in light of 9/11 in the US. Frankly, even had 9/11 not happened, he would probably have been arrested for such stupidity, and not just in the US but elswhere, and the same would have and should happen to anyone that decides to be so lame brained, nomatter if they are French, American, or anything else. I would say he got off with quite a slap on the wrist.
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But if as you say it wasn't even told in a joking manner and there was a possibility people could actually have believed him then it's just plain stupid and deserves nothing less.
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Here is a weblog. Now I did get some actual local news on this. It wasn't covered national - but it was covered on our local news - since I live 40 miles from NY.
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He had to go to jail and be held while it went through the courts. What happened if he did have a bomb or was actually testing out something but had links to terrorist organizations. You just don't joke around like that. He had a lawyer - he had his day in court and as far as I'm concerne he should consider himself lucky the fine wasn't larger.
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what a moron, when i first went on to a plane my parents kept repeating to me not to talk or joke about having a bomb. i mean what an idiot what can you expect. you cant take a risk and get people from bomb security to go out there and waste their time, thats probably half the fine. i rmember i think it was hear but a kid had a note in his luggage saying i have a bomb and he almost went to jail but was just fined because he was 17
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You're not allowed to joke about that stuff? What happened to freedom of speech? I made an ironic comment to my german friend as we were boarding the plane to Wellington that of course I had remembered to put bombs in my shoes, accompanied by eye rolling, etc. The stewardess just laughed. Sheesh, remind me not to make smart comments anywhere near US airports.
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I find it sick you would even joke about something like that.
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Read my post again. I didn't say I AGREED with people who joked about the two towers disaster, and I myself, would never do it. I just find the idea that having that freedom removed is just wrong - just like you support nazi marches, even if you don't agree with them.
There is a difference between an ironic comment and a joke - the ironic comment was made strictly to point out how moronic those people are. But feel free to find me sick.
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Nazi marches are only protected unless they start saying they are going to lynch or if they are going to harm people. That is not protected. If they say they are going to blow up the crowd - whether it is joking or not - is not protected. They aren't making fun of the twin towers, they aren't showing support for the fanatics - they are claiming they have a bomb on them as they are on a plane. There is a big difference. Quote:
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That took place only 15 miles from JFK airport where the guy thought it would be funny to make a bomb comment on a plane. By the way - how did the stewardess know you did NOT have bombs in your shoes?
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You didn't actually describe what you were wearing - which makes it somewhat different. You still don't joke about it. My father - and this was way before 9/11 - was traveling on business trip with someone. They guy he was with joked about having a bomb - and the security guy overheard him. The guy had said "Do you think they'll find the bomb?" Well my father wasn't too happy because they dragged them in for questioning. My father was pissed when he came back from the business trip. NOt at the secutiry either - but at how stupid that guy could be to joke like that.
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Apology accepted.
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This girl did a similar thing. Hard to believe anyone could be so stupid. However funny you think it is, you don't make jokes that are going to upset people - that's just good manners. She obviously didn't do it with malicious intent, so I don't think the punishment needs to be very stringent, but it's still incredibly stupid
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I hadn't heard anything about the British girl - at least she was sorry and accepted that it was stupid. I think part of the French guy's problem was how uncooperative he was.
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JD, did you have to post those pictures? I hate seeing them. *shudder*
Anyway, I have to agree with JD on this. That frenchman is a complete moron. As is anyone who can possibly think talking about a bomb in jest is amusing. A bomb is a device designed to kill as many people as possible. In my opinion there is nothing at all funny about it. I think if he said it in any place they would at least ask some questions about it because what airline wants to risk a flight with hundreds of people on being lost? Quote:
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Well, obviously this guy is an idiot.
15 days in jail is perhaps a bit over the top; I would have thought a night in the cells and a fine would have been punishment enough. Many years ago, my cousin made a joke about having guns in the boot of his car at an army checkpoint in Northern Ireland. He soon learned his lesson about inappropriate humour when he was dragged out of the car, pinned to the ground and searched at gunpoint. Though I have a question for you, JerseyDevil: what do you think ordinary French people think about this guy? |
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