Interesting Map

Twista · 03-23-2005, 01:29 PM

Little thing I've found.

I've never seen the whole of Arda illustrated like this.. thought you might like to see!

Interesting Map

ElemmÃrÃ« · 03-23-2005, 05:22 PM

I've seen that in the Shaping of Middle-eath, HoME 4.

Though... haven't quite managed to read the book yet...

me9996 · 03-26-2005, 03:19 PM

Wow, strange map...

**Nurvingiel** · 03-26-2005, 06:11 PM

It is pretty cool. I think we're supposed to go "hey, it's Earth!" when looking at it, and I definitely did. But I have one problem with it. What exactly is the Encircling Sea in this map? The map implies Arda is a sphere, and the Encircling Sea is... the atmosphere?

Radagast The Brown · 03-26-2005, 06:23 PM

It's a 'regular' sea, I think.. it's mentioned in the Silmarillion. Apparently, only the Valar know its length, and it's the place where Ulmo 'lives'.
It seems like the sun and moon passes in it..? I'm not sure, I only noticed it now.

I've never put attention to the Encircling Sea.

Olmer · 03-26-2005, 06:28 PM

This is from the late Karen Wynn Fonstad's book "The Atlas of Middle -Earth".
She did an amazing work, making detailed maps not only to every tiny corner of Middle-earth, but to absolutely all events which happened on Arda since the dawn of its existance.
I'm highly recommending to get this book.

Lefty Scaevola · 03-30-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

The map implies Arda is a sphere, and the Encircling Sea is... the atmosphere?

It was a disk, until the destruction of Numenor. There are walls at the edge.

Morgoth the Elfbit · 03-30-2005, 09:30 PM

Wait. Seriously? Thats really cool. SO there world actually was flat. cool. How high were the walls cuz what if you hopped over? Anyway this is a cool map.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-31-2005, 02:20 PM

the walls of night there are. morgoth was thrust from the walls at the end of the first age, and into the void

me9996 · 03-26-2005, 09:34 PM

Can't we just argee it's an interesting map?

Twista · 03-27-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by me9996

Can't we just argee it's an interesting map?

No, I change my mind. I dont think its interesting any more... so we can keep discussing.

Haradrim · 03-28-2005, 11:47 PM

Wait doesnt that map show a connection between ME and Valinor. I could be wron gbut I didnt think such a thing existed. IF so those elves were pretty foolish...

Twista · 03-29-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haradrim

Wait doesnt that map show a connection between ME and Valinor. I could be wron gbut I didnt think such a thing existed. IF so those elves were pretty foolish...

Yes... it was a big plateau of ice. It broke up sometime during the 2nd age... probably at the destruction of Beleriand I assume... I cant acually remember. Can someone fill in the gaps?

Haradrim · 03-29-2005, 04:03 PM

Huh. SO then why didnt the elves go back and forth. Also if isildurs peeps wanted to go there so abd why didnt they cross over. It just seems a little odd to me that they would ignore that route.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-30-2005, 09:24 AM

yes, it is an interesting map

ItalianLegolas · 04-10-2005, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twista

Little thing I've found.

I've never seen the whole of Arda illustrated like this.. thought you might like to see!

I believe that map can be found in The Atlas of Middle-Earth also

Maerbenn · 04-14-2005, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElemmÃ*rÃ«

I've seen that in The Shaping of Middle-earth, HoME 4.

Actually, Fonstadâ€™s map seems to be based on that map.

Olmer · 04-14-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maerbenn

Actually, Fonstadâ€™s map seems to be based on that map.

Naturally, all her maps BASED on Tolkien's work. Otherwise it woun't be called "The Atlas of Middle-earth". What Tolkien's map locks is a clear definitions and details. She finished this work for him very admirably.

03-23-2005, 01:29 PM	#1
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03-28-2005, 11:47 PM	#12
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	Wait doesnt that map show a connection between ME and Valinor. I could be wron gbut I didnt think such a thing existed. IF so those elves were pretty foolish... __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

03-26-2005, 06:28 PM	#6
Olmer Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LI-woods, NY Posts: 653	This is from the late Karen Wynn Fonstad's book "The Atlas of Middle -Earth". She did an amazing work, making detailed maps not only to every tiny corner of Middle-earth, but to absolutely all events which happened on Arda since the dawn of its existance. I'm highly recommending to get this book.

03-31-2005, 02:20 PM	#9
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	the walls of night there are. morgoth was thrust from the walls at the end of the first age, and into the void

03-29-2005, 04:03 PM	#14
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	Huh. SO then why didnt the elves go back and forth. Also if isildurs peeps wanted to go there so abd why didnt they cross over. It just seems a little odd to me that they would ignore that route. __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

03-30-2005, 09:24 AM	#15
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	yes, it is an interesting map

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