07-27-2006, 01:04 PM | #1 |
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Ok, here's what's on my mind.
George W. Bush's image has been, up until 2004 of a cowboy, straight-talking ten-gallon hatter. These days it's more of a clutzy joker...no fault of his, because I think he's always been that way, and never good with the press, so his weaknesses are made manifest to the reporters, who in turn write about him. My question is: Is George Bush a smart man? As in, did he do his Yale homework? And does he just act goofy or just plain Texan on purpose to connect with people (what he thinks is connecting anyways). I think he beats around the bush (no pun intended) when he speaks because I think thats what he thinks is the way to do it, and complicated by the fact that he has to dance around the press' extraordinary ability to edit someone's speech to tilt a certain way... When he said the S word to Tony Blair about Syria, he was the true direct speaking politician he should be. I'd rather him say the S word a hundred times in a straight-plain speech than mumble hair-splitting inanities trying to be politically correct. This question of smarts should be asked not just of the President, but of every single politician out there. The wily politician, he is everywhere: he changes his stance just before election day, and whether through inablility of congress and senate to agree, one politician can't fulfil his promises to the state voters that voted him in.
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07-27-2006, 01:32 PM | #2 |
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I would say so, just perhaps not the best educated. Also, he is manifestly incompetent, politically bankrupt and utterly subservient to his corporate masters.
But you already knew that In answer to your question, how do politicians work, if you reach into your pocket, pull out your wallet and take out one of those crisp, green bits of paper with George Washington's face on it, you've got your answer. Last edited by The Gaffer : 07-27-2006 at 01:34 PM. |
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btw, not just Washington's face, what about Darwin's face over there, working on YOUR politicians' brain processing? Eh?
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07-27-2006, 03:12 PM | #4 |
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Yes, thankfully most of our politicians have brains, and therefore don't spend too much time obsessing about Darwin.
But the same rules apply: money buys politicians. We have had a massive deregulation of gambling here for which there was absolutely no public demand, just that New Labour donors wanted it. Same with the fudge over tobacco advertising etc etc. And they have been doling out peerages (i.e. a Lordship) in return for loans. It's also true that many people have made the mistake of "misunderestimating" Bush (to coin his own phrase), and his puppetmasters. He has played a very clever, cynical game. History, however, will not be kind to him. My view is that he will be remembered as a stooge too far: it is increasingly obvious that the US Presidency is a facade for corporate interests, and the setup is optimised to ensure that nothing ever happens that is bad for big business. |
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I think history gets kinder as it gets older (or younger), and if things workout with Iraq and the next Pres, Bush's status will go up somewhat. No doubt about the money deals. Btw, Maybe if I gave Cameron, or Blair or Prince Charles a few thousand, they'd give me a Knighthood?
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However, the only way history could be kind to him IMO would be for having the audacity to invade Iraq to get hold of its oil, which, in 20 years time, you (i.e. the US) may be particularly thankful for as the price of energy goes truly stratospheric. Quote:
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I think intelligence is a vastly overrated virtue in politicians. Some very smart people made terrible leaders (Carter, in the US) while some who could charitably be described as less than brilliant (Reagan) did quite well relying on a few basics.
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I heard a biographer speak on Reagan, and Bush a bit (I can't remember who it was). He mentioned that Reagan, even though he certainly took the conservative hardline approach in public on many issues, was very open to compromise on a whole host of issues, from international to at home economic matters. Reagan was also a fan of FDR in his youth and, while I think many of his policies were misguided, as he realized himself later in his presidency, his intentions were more for the benefit of all the people, rather than just the rich as it is sometimes remembered.
GW Bush, by contrast, is very much a "rich kid" who grew up with little or no real exposure to the common man. I still remember a news report when his father was president about how amazed he was when he went to a supermarket and saw the barcode scanners, something that had been out for years at the time. He thinks what he does is right only because he knows so little about what life in america is all about. I think GW's issue is less about intelligence, and more a matter of common knowledge about the 95% of the american populace that he has been sheltered from for his entire life. It's almost sad if it wasn't so tragic.
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you want to know how he thinks, well here it is
Just click on the link below, bush is preparing for marhall law:
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/20...378&frame=true PS. If you scroll down on the netscape home page you will see another article where newt gringrich is saying that anti-war americans are insurgency.
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I figured I'd better jump in and steal the compliment before Grey_Wolf did.
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It seems to me that this is how it is with most of the bussinessmen presidents, whearas the ones who had lawyer experience probably knew their people better... I say this about the bussinessmen because what they do mostly is make money, and that is not exactly something that makes you "click" with people. Quote:
I think Bush needs to drop what he thinks is his everyman look, and start showing that he went to college. People at this point are sick of his jumbled speeches (WHO writes these?!!)
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Perhaps a little OT -
Sweden, imo, is the country in the world who suffers the worst from politicomania, that is the tendency of the media to place everything in a political aspect. |
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Oh, I don't know if our media is worse than the media in many other countries. Besides, I think this tends to happen during an election year.
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Sorry, Jonathan, but it doesnt matter if it is election year or not. The politicomania is spread evenly over every hour, day, month and year. The Swedish Media's politics-horniness have no rival in other countries.
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