06-21-2006, 05:50 AM | #1 |
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How would you have changed the setting?
I was talking with Sam about some parts of the setting we would have changed. What would you have changed if you were making the movies? Would you have more computer generated scenes or less? Would the movies only be filmed in New Zealand or many different places? Money is no object.
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06-21-2006, 05:33 PM | #2 | |
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Money is not an option? You mean there's no money to pay for it? Or do you mean money's no object?
Anyway I'd likely animate everything
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06-24-2006, 12:29 AM | #3 |
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ya. Money is no object.
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06-25-2006, 09:44 PM | #4 |
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I would use far less computer generated imagery. I always envisioned LOTR movie battle scenes more like the movie Braveheart. Highly realistic, even with trolls and orcs.
There are many things I did not like about the visuals. I didn't even like Lothlorien. Too dreamy and fake looking. It's the same reason I got tired of the batman series after awhile, just fake. Look at batman beggins, highly realistic therefore much better. I prefer a more practical approach. Those flets and tree houses should have looked far more realistic; realistic lighting everything. Just people living in the forest, people highly adopted to do so, with the usual elvin creative flare, but still believeable in everyday sense. Another example are those dragons in the movie ring of fire. Very realistic feel throughout that movie. Dragons in the waking world feeling that. Frankly, the fellowship of the rings was the only one of the three that I did not walk out of. I was incredibly disappointed with them.
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The Fake armies were TOO huge....I agree with Telcontarion. Lothlorien really sucked...not beautiful, not tree worthy. The emphasis on the colored lighting (gold/Rivendell, blue-nightime/Lothlorien, green/Shire etc ) was way overdone.
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07-12-2006, 09:39 AM | #6 |
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I would have changed the way they did the Ents. They made them look too much like walking Huorns or half asleep Ents. The book discribes Ents as having moss hair and beards, not branches and leaves!
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So....they were too barky/branchy/woody for you?
The Ents would be very difficult....I don't think I could have done them well enough to satisfy myself. Treebeard was a bit of a dork though....
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07-12-2006, 12:56 PM | #8 |
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They looked too much like Huorns. They didn't look at all like they were discribed in the books. Ents were discribed in the books as being man-like somewhat trool like figures with a bark-like covering over the torso and legs. They had grey-green hair and beards. I would have liked it better if they had stuck closer to the text.
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07-12-2006, 01:37 PM | #9 |
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*shrugs*
I'm not an Entologist, so I don't know much about these things. They looked pretty good to me. I was dissapointed that Huorns actually never made it into the movie. They would have been cool.
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hey, did anyone notice how bright shelobs lair was??? i mean what was Pj thinking ok, i wouldn't have really cared if Pj had put in a few extra tunnels, but when the book clearly says over and over again that it was too dark to even see your hand in front of you there should be no light!!!!!
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08-18-2006, 06:47 AM | #11 |
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I agree with the Tel; more realistic battle sequences, more realistic elves. MUCH less special effects and sets, more location shooting. Better lighting, especially in the Lothlorien scenes. And something completely different for the Paths of the Dead, and the Dead themselves. Terribly done, IMHO.
Yeah, the Fellowship was the best; it relied on character and story, not special effects. The battles were real, gritty and real, not those seam-lined special effects bonanzas. Besides, Beans is alive in that one.
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08-20-2006, 04:38 PM | #14 |
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actually, i had invisioned something copletely different.
hobbits enter shelob's lair, screen is black, nothing can be seen (except for maybe the hobbit's faces) cut scene, go to gandalf and pippin doin there thing. Cut scene, back to the hobbits, screen is still black, they find the webbing, cut through it with sting. thn eight bright green eyes behind them, frodo brings out the light of Galadriel, SHELOB!!!, hobbits run.
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08-21-2006, 04:18 AM | #15 |
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Yeah, something similar to the final scene in Silence of the Lambs would have been good, perhaps shown from Shelob's perspective using some sort of groovy infravision type thing.
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08-21-2006, 06:43 AM | #16 |
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Oh, Shelob's tunnel definately needed help. Less light was in order, yes. I think it's from PJ's splatter-film roots; he wants to gross you out, not scare you. Because the darkness would have freaked out out more when Shelob was finally revealed than just having a big monster with lots of fuzz and skeletons hanging about.
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Shelob's lair could've been one of if not the scariest part of the movie. I'm suprised that pj didn't capitolise.
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