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Elven Warrior
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Elves > Men?
Am I the only one who always thought that Elves were superior to Men in all possible aspects?
I honestly can't think of a single thing in which Men are superior to Elves. It's stated in The Silmarillion that Elves possess greater skill, greater beauty, greater endurance and so on, and yes - they are destined to have "the greater bliss in Arda" as well. Their lives begin by a great, beautiful lake, and they're guided by Oromë the Vala to The Blessed Realm. Their life is a part of the world itself, they are able to "sleep" while wandering, they got great gifts of sight and hearing - and so on. Men seem worse in everything, even, even power "the Elves had the greater power". What was Ilúvatar thinking, anyway? ![]() "Ah, time for the next race: Atani! They shall strongly resemble the Elves in looks, BUT... I will give them worse sight and hearing, they shall be weaker, they shall have the lesser bliss, they shall definitely not visit Paradise in Aman, they shall be subject to sickness - and they shall be mortal, and start withering in their 50's or 60's. Yeah, that's about it." Last edited by Peter_20 : 03-31-2007 at 09:18 AM. |
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The one true King of the human race, direct descendant of Adam and heir to the kings of old. "You owe me your fealty." The Tar Minyaturion
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![]() Well, while the elves were bonded to the destiny of the world foreseen through the music of the ainur, only men where not. For if the elves were to tire of the world, they could not escape it in life or in death, they would always return. Man could depart.
The whole character of men were different because of this. We took more risk, and lived far more vigorously than they did. It was common for man to experience far more in his short life span than an elf would in all it's long ages of life. For their lives are set and predestined, while the chances of life are like onto man as a pear of dice at play; we can keep shaking it up until we get what we seek. I would even argue that, in this way we where more like onto illuvatar than were the elves; we decided our own faith.
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Elven Warrior
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sweden
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Well, alright, but why did the Atani get worse sight and hearing, and why did they become subject to ills and so on?
That makes no sense whatsoever. |
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Chalk it up to the wisdom of Iluvatar.
Perhaps he wanted us to realize at some point, that we needed to look past this world, since we're not bound to it forever. Our tendency to "break down" prompts us to think about what lies beyond. ![]()
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Men are also arguably better at reproducing and better at processing and moving on from certain types of serious emotional shocks such as the death of a spouse. |
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Elf Lord
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Or the theft of a jewel
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Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001
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Awww, c'mon. No one would, like, start a WAR or anything over a -jewel-.
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