Minority Report

***gdl96*** · 06-21-2002, 06:39 PM

Go see this movie, it's friggin awsome.

It's Spielberg's best work since, well, A.I. (but for the many whom didn't like A.I., I guess it's his best since Jurassic Park). Tom Cruise is great, as are the action scenes. Go see it!

emplynx · 06-21-2002, 07:05 PM

I want to go see it.

BeardofPants · 06-21-2002, 10:21 PM

Can someone tell me which PK Dick story this is based on?

***IronParrot*** · 06-22-2002, 09:57 PM

Not sure. Wasn't the Dick story this was based on of the same title?

As for the film itself, it is indeed highly recommended. Don't expect an action movie, though - it's a more cerebral sort of thriller where the visuals are only a background enhancement to the meaty story.

Full review eventually, but I have about seven or eight other ones to catch up on first...

BeardofPants · 06-23-2002, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronParrot
As for the film itself, it is indeed highly recommended. Don't expect an action movie, though - it's a more cerebral sort of thriller where the visuals are only a background enhancement to the meaty story.

Only to be expected if it's based on a Philip K. Dick story. Damn, when is it coming over here?!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 06-24-2002, 01:41 AM

I definitely want to see this one!

***HOBBIT*** · 06-24-2002, 04:21 PM

There was a lot of commotion with women cheering and stuff when John asked that women "well who has more abilities?"
and she replied "the female of course" that was amusing.

Darth Tater · 06-26-2002, 08:07 PM

Oh my god 8 friggin trailers!!! AAAAAAAHHH! Swimfan, lol worst title ever!

Anywho, I liked the movie a lot. It was obviously flawed, but it was very ambitious. What bothered me the most was the cliche of mentioning the drowning, that's been done way too many times, it's an easy op out. I also thought the very end wasn't sold so well, the reason pre-crime closed down. I believe it was because of realization of what the pre-cogs are, actual humans, but this wasn't sold too well. Cruise's naration during that part hurt the movie IMO.

Loved the sound and visual design, especially the ads. That Gap sequence had me in stitches!

BeardofPants · 06-27-2002, 01:30 AM

NZ just got it today. Very good movie, however, I probably would have cast someone else instead of Cruise. And the ending wasn't explained very clearly in terms of the pre-cogs being recognised as humans, and not as tools to use in solving crime. Makes me want to track down the short story though. I imagine that P K Dick's version would have been a little grittier, and more mind boggling...

galadriel88 · 06-27-2002, 02:59 PM

I want to see it, but we're gonna see Lilo & Stitch tomorrow night so I'll have to wait. Unless I can get some friends together or something...hmm...

***gdl96*** · 06-27-2002, 03:24 PM

BoP, I thought Cruise did a great job in the lead role.

BeardofPants · 06-27-2002, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gdl96
BoP, I thought Cruise did a great job in the lead role.

Yeah, he did a good job, but I find it hard to envision him as an angst ridden flawed character. I think it's his teeth or something.

Darth Tater · 06-27-2002, 06:07 PM

I gotta agree with BoP there. The scene at the pool, when he was connecting with his son, was the only one in which Cruise really shined. I guess his life's been just too blest to be playing a drug addict cop with nothing to lose except his life.

Jinnigan · 06-29-2002, 10:32 PM

Thank you all for throwing in spoilers... I wanna go see it. Really badly. The plot (from what I hear) looks awesome. Are the moral ethics and such discussed at all?

Elvet · 06-30-2002, 05:28 PM

I saw this movie last night and I recommend it as well. It reminded me somewhat of the Matrix ( though not nearly as complex ).

***IronParrot*** · 07-01-2002, 09:42 PM

Quote:

"It reminded me somewhat of the Matrix ( though not nearly as complex )."

Really? Plot-wise, I was far more thrilled by Minority Report's depth...

BeardofPants · 07-01-2002, 09:51 PM

I have to agree there. "Matrix" is somewhat over-rated, with a REALLY bad script. Don't get me wrong, it had a good concept, but maaan they should have fired the scriptwriter!

Minority Report on the other hand - well, it was definately more complex. There were a few hiccups, but overall, I'd have to say it was a better movie than Matrix.

Elvet · 07-02-2002, 12:47 PM

I'll clarify a bit. I agree with you about the scripts. I thought the concept behind the Matrix was more complex. It took me a while to get my mind around the idea of a software world. I'm always fascinated about how we distinguish reality, how we 'buy in' to our surroundings. The boundaries can be blurred between reality
and imagination, between memories and dreams. That's the part that caught my attention, I had never thought of it in the context of software generation.

Rána Eressëa · 07-06-2002, 09:07 AM

I can't wait to see this! (I skipped all the posts that even slightly seemed to give away info.) I love Spielberg's work, and my parents are forcing me to wait longer before I see it. Ugh, just a few more days . . .

afro-elf · 07-06-2002, 02:24 PM

SPOILER ALEART

I saw it here in thailand yesterday morning. It was ok. It was difficult for me to watch because Agatha reminded me of someone...

The scences that had suspense for me was when you found out he had put the doctor away few years back. I that he was gonna be screwed. And finding out there was no minority report.

I felt it being max von sydow to have been an easy pick. ( how old is that guy 3000 ?) I love him as an actor but damn he's been around since greco-roman theater.

the rocket belt fight was cool.

Tom is too "perfect" to be a passable drug addict.

I didn't find it to be deep.

I doubt I'll watch it again.

over all it was a typical summer movie.

PS ( i find it hard to believe that people found that pseudo hindu techno phliosophy "difficult"

PPS i tend to be a tough critic. I guess its being billed as a "cerebral" movie but if that is cerebral, america gotta be the dumbest country in creation

Its NOT a dumb movie and I thought that the actress who palyedn agatha was "brilliant".

but I think it hardly was 'awesome" it was entertaining. I'm NOTsorry i spent my $2 to see it. But once was enough.

06-21-2002, 06:39 PM	#1
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	Minority Report Go see this movie, it's friggin awsome. It's Spielberg's best work since, well, A.I. (but for the many whom didn't like A.I., I guess it's his best since Jurassic Park). Tom Cruise is great, as are the action scenes. Go see it!

06-21-2002, 10:21 PM	#3
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Can someone tell me which PK Dick story this is based on? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

06-22-2002, 09:57 PM	#4
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	Not sure. Wasn't the Dick story this was based on of the same title? As for the film itself, it is indeed highly recommended. Don't expect an action movie, though - it's a more cerebral sort of thriller where the visuals are only a background enhancement to the meaty story. Full review eventually, but I have about seven or eight other ones to catch up on first... __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

06-24-2002, 01:41 AM	#6
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I definitely want to see this one! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

06-24-2002, 04:21 PM	#7
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06-21-2002, 07:05 PM	#2
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I want to go see it.

06-26-2002, 08:07 PM	#8
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	Oh my god 8 friggin trailers!!! AAAAAAAHHH! Swimfan, lol worst title ever! Anywho, I liked the movie a lot. It was obviously flawed, but it was very ambitious. What bothered me the most was the cliche of mentioning the drowning, that's been done way too many times, it's an easy op out. I also thought the very end wasn't sold so well, the reason pre-crime closed down. I believe it was because of realization of what the pre-cogs are, actual humans, but this wasn't sold too well. Cruise's naration during that part hurt the movie IMO. Loved the sound and visual design, especially the ads. That Gap sequence had me in stitches! __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot

06-27-2002, 01:30 AM	#9
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	NZ just got it today. Very good movie, however, I probably would have cast someone else instead of Cruise. And the ending wasn't explained very clearly in terms of the pre-cogs being recognised as humans, and not as tools to use in solving crime. Makes me want to track down the short story though. I imagine that P K Dick's version would have been a little grittier, and more mind boggling... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

06-27-2002, 02:59 PM	#10
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	I want to see it, but we're gonna see Lilo & Stitch tomorrow night so I'll have to wait. Unless I can get some friends together or something...hmm... __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

06-27-2002, 03:24 PM	#11
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	BoP, I thought Cruise did a great job in the lead role.

06-27-2002, 06:07 PM	#13
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	I gotta agree with BoP there. The scene at the pool, when he was connecting with his son, was the only one in which Cruise really shined. I guess his life's been just too blest to be playing a drug addict cop with nothing to lose except his life. __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot

06-29-2002, 10:32 PM	#14
Jinnigan Hobbit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Yrmori, sometimes Elgoi Posts: 30	Thank you all for throwing in spoilers... I wanna go see it. Really badly. The plot (from what I hear) looks awesome. Are the moral ethics and such discussed at all? __________________ Apathy++

06-30-2002, 05:28 PM	#15
Elvet Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Orillia, Ontario Posts: 221	I saw this movie last night and I recommend it as well. It reminded me somewhat of the Matrix ( though not nearly as complex ). __________________ "But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know."

07-01-2002, 09:51 PM	#17
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I have to agree there. "Matrix" is somewhat over-rated, with a REALLY bad script. Don't get me wrong, it had a good concept, but maaan they should have fired the scriptwriter! Minority Report on the other hand - well, it was definately more complex. There were a few hiccups, but overall, I'd have to say it was a better movie than Matrix. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-02-2002, 12:47 PM	#18
Elvet Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Orillia, Ontario Posts: 221	I'll clarify a bit. I agree with you about the scripts. I thought the concept behind the Matrix was more complex. It took me a while to get my mind around the idea of a software world. I'm always fascinated about how we distinguish reality, how we 'buy in' to our surroundings. The boundaries can be blurred between reality and imagination, between memories and dreams. That's the part that caught my attention, I had never thought of it in the context of software generation. __________________ "But do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know."

07-06-2002, 09:07 AM	#19
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I can't wait to see this! (I skipped all the posts that even slightly seemed to give away info.) I love Spielberg's work, and my parents are forcing me to wait longer before I see it. Ugh, just a few more days . . .

07-06-2002, 02:24 PM	#20
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	SPOILER ALEART I saw it here in thailand yesterday morning. It was ok. It was difficult for me to watch because Agatha reminded me of someone... The scences that had suspense for me was when you found out he had put the doctor away few years back. I that he was gonna be screwed. And finding out there was no minority report. I felt it being max von sydow to have been an easy pick. ( how old is that guy 3000 ?) I love him as an actor but damn he's been around since greco-roman theater. the rocket belt fight was cool. Tom is too "perfect" to be a passable drug addict. I didn't find it to be deep. I doubt I'll watch it again. over all it was a typical summer movie. PS ( i find it hard to believe that people found that pseudo hindu techno phliosophy "difficult" PPS i tend to be a tough critic. I guess its being billed as a "cerebral" movie but if that is cerebral, america gotta be the dumbest country in creation Its NOT a dumb movie and I thought that the actress who palyedn agatha was "brilliant". but I think it hardly was 'awesome" it was entertaining. I'm NOTsorry i spent my $2 to see it. But once was enough. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

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