09-07-2002, 11:01 AM | #1 |
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What would be like your version of the LotR?
Hey, I’m finally going to see the movie
Now, my questions; Suppose you were given a shot at making a new film version of the LotR, you could correct every thing you think PJ did wrong, (or change things further) and you could select any actor at all for the cast. (you have unlimited funds) What would you correct (or change) from the movie and the books? Who would be in the cast in your version of the movie?
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09-07-2002, 12:20 PM | #2 |
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I think the cast was really good, i think i would have liked to see the old forest and tom bombadil, i also think they should have showed a shot of aragorn hoppin into bree
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09-07-2002, 02:05 PM | #3 |
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there are a lot of things i would make more accurate and i would add some things. i dont know about tom bombadil. he's awesome but i would be afraid of doing it badly...maybe i should just get someone else to do it for me, using my ideas. i would make the characters cooler like they are in the books, esp. frodo and merry/pippin. they were good but merry/pippin were like, stupid. they had some good lines though that i would keep from p.j.s movie. i would skip the arwen ford crossing for sure. frodos too much of a sissy in the movie anyway and he should be able to get across on the horse (i forgot its name) by himself and refuse to go to mordor himself. i like the cast though and i thought elijah wood made a good frodo just like i pictured. um...that was kind of long, more later maybe
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09-07-2002, 03:41 PM | #4 |
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Glamdring glowing.And narsil being reforged when its should be.Tom b. and goldberry.And the barrow wights.
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09-07-2002, 05:13 PM | #5 |
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I would try to Redo the Scene explaining The War of the Last Alliance so that it shows Gil-Galad And Elendil. I might also Hold off on it till they get to Rivendell. Also I would try and make Elves seem more joyful and welcoming rather than ominous and brooding.
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09-07-2002, 06:16 PM | #6 |
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I would make the pointed ears smaller. Galadriel"s make her look bad, like Alfred E. Newman, or Dumbo. I'd put in the old forrest, the barrow downs, and Tom and Goldberry, just gloss over the Saruman thing. No Lurtz, just something quick and simple about Saruman looking in the palantir and getting warped and serving Sauron. More Aragorn in Bree is a great idea! Rivendell would be a jolly place, more like in The Hobbit, but the council and Bilbo's bday party I really liked. A little less Moria and Lothlorien could have been made a little less solemn and scary. ( the singing, fun loving elves). I might think of more!
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09-07-2002, 07:53 PM | #7 |
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The Rivendell thing did kind of bother me, because in the books (the hobbit especially) tolkien makes a big deal about how joyful the elves are, always singing and whatnot. But the only elf that really talkes in Rivendell (other than arwen and she doesnt count) is Elrond, and he always looked kind of pissed off! i could have done with some elvish singing!!
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09-08-2002, 09:28 PM | #8 |
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i agree with the elf thing totally. elves are supposed to be more happy. i would try to make everything less dramatic-almost-to-the-point-of-cornyness and more...um, exciting when appropriate, naturally, and also more...noble and sublime. oh yeah and i would want to have nob in there in bree. i have shoes named nob and bob...
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09-08-2002, 10:21 PM | #9 |
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It was a time of war. I don't think merry making elves would have been entirely appropriate for the tone of the movie. Tolkien himself regretted the tra-la-la version of the elves.
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09-09-2002, 07:49 AM | #10 |
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I would have cast Sean Bean as Aragorn, instead of the weak-chinned wonder PJ found.
I would also have made Frodo and Sam a lot closer (as they are in the books)..........although this may come about in later films I would have definatley had Merry and Pippin more naive and innocent........as they should be.........rather than the stupid clowns PJ has turned them into......it makes me wonder if "The Scouring of the Shire" is going to be more like Bill and Ted take on the Hells Angels <shudders> Lorien would have been as somber in atmosphere.......but it would have looked more beautiful. As for the elfs.........ye gods.......when did Tolkiens description of "the fairest race" become confused with "the most feminine race" a beautiful (handsome) male elf should not IMO be effeminate as Haldir was portrayed in the movie |
09-09-2002, 08:23 AM | #11 |
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Then I guess that would make a lot of worries about character development redundant then but for the want of several years film making experience and a muti million pound (dollar) budget I would go out and make a better version myself |
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09-09-2002, 01:43 PM | #13 |
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I think I'ds like to try LOTR from the point of view of a regular Gondorian or Rohirrim soldier. It would be interesting to see how they view the main characters where the story is from their POV. Or probably a different script where Gollum is the main character and how he trudges on with his drudgery of a life and perhaps with some circumstances of how and why things happened as read from the book.
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Get another actor for Elrond, and change the whiney-brat attitude he has!!
What's with the conflicted Aragorn? He's not at all like that in the book - he knows what he has to do, has waited for the right time to carry it out, and does it! But Hollywood seems to need to change it so a man is a wimp until he has a good strong woman behind him (Aragorn: Oh, my ancestor really messed up, and now I'm afraid I'll mess up, too! Oh, I don't know what to do!! Arwen: Oh, honey, you can do it, I know you can - now just let me inject some more collagen in my lips then I'll give you a little kissy-poo and send you off!) Also agree that the elves are a little too feminine, not like the macho guys in the Silmarillion. I thought Haldir was ok, but not the elves behind him - were they men or women? Overall, though, I thought the movie was great (although I did miss Glorfindel, he's cool!)
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09-09-2002, 03:27 PM | #15 |
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Originally posted by Arathorn
Or probably a different script where Gollum is the main character and how he trudges on with his drudgery of a life and perhaps with some circumstances of how and why things happened as read from the book. Gollum! The main character! Excuse me while I go puke! Arathorn, that sounds so gross and boring, all that preciousing and hissing...ewwww! |
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Tolkien has a really interesting comment about that scene in one of his letters, I'll try to find it. *scurries off to grab "Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien", thanks C.T. for putting in good index* ah - letters 96 and 181 touch on this scene.
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09-09-2002, 04:16 PM | #19 |
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yeah maybe...i kind of like him (smeagol/gollum) in a weird way but i think its mostly just sympathy. i really did feel bad for him especially after reading through certain things again and better understanding some of his intentions. its not like it is completley his fault (if at all) that he ended up like he did. but there is a thread for that i think and this is off topic by now. but the point is i wouldn't mind seeing a movie with gollum as the main character. i would love to see it. if it was done well and not completely stupid.
oh yeah now i remember what else. i would do the galadriel scene a lot differently. not such a freaky voice and colours. oh yeah, this is my one hundred and eleventh post. Last edited by katya : 09-09-2002 at 04:17 PM. |
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I am sympathetic towards Gollum, I can certainly see your point there, He does say some good lines (What's taters? ) If you could tell his story without all the ssing, gurgling and slinking....and "my preciousss" after everything!
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