Sindarin Questions

Starr Polish · 03-29-2002, 05:49 PM

Is there anyone here who knows of a Sindarin course? I know there is a Quenya course, but I need one in Sindarin for a fanfic I am writing.

Well, if there isn't, can anyone translate the name Star Maiden into Sindarin for me?

Wayfarer · 03-29-2002, 06:25 PM

That's easy.

Off the top of my head, It's Elwen

Alternately, it could be Elenwen or Gîlwen, and you could use inu (female) instead of gwenn (wen, maiden).

Starr Polish · 03-29-2002, 06:29 PM

Thank you so much...now to determine exactly who she is in the story

Wayfarer · 03-29-2002, 06:35 PM

Which story?

Elwen the white was Earendel's wife, in the silmarillion.

Starr Polish · 03-29-2002, 06:39 PM

I'm writing a fanfic involving Legolas (no, it is NOT a romance) that has a female character in it. Dunno if she's going to be his younger sister or a close friend (I reiterate, with nothing romantic about the relationship). If it sucks I won't post it, I promise

Ñólendil · 03-30-2002, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Elwen the white was Earendel's wife, in the silmarillion.

Elwing, dufous. Though Elwing wasn't called "the white" either. That was Aredhel or Nimloth, I don't remember which. Probably Nimloth, Elwing's mother.

I don't remember a character named Elwen.

Wayfarer · 03-30-2002, 06:38 PM

Ack! Woe is me!

Dylan is right, it seems. My mistake. Elwen is not a character of tolkien's, but rather a common name in fanfiction.

Wayfarer · 03-30-2002, 06:39 PM

Oh, and nimloth means 'white flower' so it's likely that she was 'the white'.

Menelvagor · 03-30-2002, 06:46 PM

'White flower' the White? Isn't that a bit redundant?

Wayfarer · 03-30-2002, 06:49 PM

*Ahem*

So is Thingol Greycloak...

And several other elven names which i can't think of at the moment.

Menelvagor · 03-30-2002, 07:14 PM

True. Don't take it to mean I doubt she was 'the white'. Merely commenting...

*ducks in case someone decides to throw something*

Ñólendil · 03-30-2002, 08:03 PM

There's also The Glittering Caves of Aglarond. "Aglarond" means "Glittering Caves".

Menelvagor · 03-30-2002, 10:53 PM

Hm, so I suppose adding 'the white' or 'glittering caves of' is just something that happened in the translation to Westron (or English).

Ñólendil · 03-31-2002, 01:49 AM

Suppose so. When Gandalf told Gimli and Legolas that those caves he spoke of were "the Glittering Caves of Aglarond", he may have been translating the Elvish name for Gimli's sake.

Starr Polish · 04-02-2002, 10:55 PM

Another question: If I am going to use an adjective to describe a noun, does the adjective go before or after? Following in the example of Aran Einior, I figured it went after.

Thus, to say 'young prince' I would say Ernil neth?

03-29-2002, 05:49 PM	#1
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Sindarin Questions Is there anyone here who knows of a Sindarin course? I know there is a Quenya course, but I need one in Sindarin for a fanfic I am writing. Well, if there isn't, can anyone translate the name Star Maiden into Sindarin for me? __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-29-2002, 06:25 PM	#2
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	That's easy. Off the top of my head, It's Elwen Alternately, it could be Elenwen or Gîlwen, and you could use inu (female) instead of gwenn (wen, maiden). __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-29-2002, 06:29 PM	#3
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Thank you so much...now to determine exactly who she is in the story __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-29-2002, 06:35 PM	#4
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Which story? Elwen the white was Earendel's wife, in the silmarillion. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-29-2002, 06:39 PM	#5
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I'm writing a fanfic involving Legolas (no, it is NOT a romance) that has a female character in it. Dunno if she's going to be his younger sister or a close friend (I reiterate, with nothing romantic about the relationship). If it sucks I won't post it, I promise __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-30-2002, 06:38 PM	#7
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Ack! Woe is me! Dylan is right, it seems. My mistake. Elwen is not a character of tolkien's, but rather a common name in fanfiction. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-30-2002, 06:39 PM	#8
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Oh, and nimloth means 'white flower' so it's likely that she was 'the white'. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-30-2002, 06:46 PM	#9
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	'White flower' the White? Isn't that a bit redundant?

03-30-2002, 06:49 PM	#10
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Ahem So is Thingol Greycloak... And several other elven names which i can't think of at the moment. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-30-2002, 07:14 PM	#11
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	True. Don't take it to mean I doubt she was 'the white'. Merely commenting... ducks in case someone decides to throw something

03-30-2002, 08:03 PM	#12
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	There's also The Glittering Caves of Aglarond. "Aglarond" means "Glittering Caves". __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

03-30-2002, 10:53 PM	#13
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	Hm, so I suppose adding 'the white' or 'glittering caves of' is just something that happened in the translation to Westron (or English).

03-31-2002, 01:49 AM	#14
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Suppose so. When Gandalf told Gimli and Legolas that those caves he spoke of were "the Glittering Caves of Aglarond", he may have been translating the Elvish name for Gimli's sake. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

04-02-2002, 10:55 PM	#15
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Another question: If I am going to use an adjective to describe a noun, does the adjective go before or after? Following in the example of Aran Einior, I figured it went after. Thus, to say 'young prince' I would say Ernil neth? __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

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