09-12-2000, 11:28 PM | #1 |
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Origin of hobbits?
Since ents and men were the 2 original first races, where did the hobbits come from? Are they their own species or a mixed breed?
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02-25-2003, 02:29 PM | #2 |
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Sorry I can't help you
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02-25-2003, 02:48 PM | #3 |
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Tolkien said that hobbits are a sub-species of humans or something of the like. I can't remember where I've read it, though- I *think* it was in the Letters.
You probably can find the actual quote in an online Tolkien FAQ, though.
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02-25-2003, 02:57 PM | #4 |
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Laurus Nobilis is correct. Hobbits are a sub-race of Men.
Moving to the Hobbit forum.
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02-25-2003, 09:20 PM | #5 |
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i just read that in the appendixes but i cant remember it so check the appendixes of the books in the back
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02-26-2003, 09:31 AM | #6 |
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What does this have to do with the book: The Hobbit? This should be in the Middle Earth forum because it's not about the book, but the race.
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02-26-2003, 04:06 PM | #7 |
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Who created them?
One of the valar? |
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02-28-2003, 03:02 PM | #12 |
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yeah thats my point the can create people but they need promition from illuvatar. Hobbits just came out of no where.
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03-06-2003, 07:29 PM | #13 |
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the firsts races
The firsts that awake were the elves, and they awake to the ents,
then, lot of time later, the men awake in Numenore. About hobbits is nothing about`em in LOTR, the Silmarillion, or Unfinished Tales, but they awake in the 3rd age, after the first war against Sauron.That is all what I know about their creation. Respectfully... Alquagarwaen. "Barûk Khazad! Khazad aimênu!!" |
04-08-2003, 08:07 AM | #14 |
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'The beginning of Hobbits lies far back in the Elder Days that are now lost and forgotten. Only the Elves still preserve any records of that vanished time ... (...) ... Yet it is clear that Hobbits had, in fact, lived quietly in Middle-earth for many long years before other folk even became aware of them.' ~JRRT FOTR
And: 'It is plain indeed that in spite of later estrangement Hobbits are relatives of ours (...) but what exactly our relationhip is can no longer be discovered.' ~JRRT FOTR In Tolkien's letters he states things more plainly: that Hobbits were a diminutive branch of the human race. ¤ Last edited by cian : 04-08-2003 at 08:15 AM. |
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