09-22-2002, 03:50 PM | #1 |
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Sauron The Balrog
Why Sauron wasn't a balrog, like all the other maiar? why was he a servent of morgoth, that looked like a human? why? my sister says he was very strong and no one could imprison him in a balrog shape.
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09-22-2002, 04:17 PM | #2 |
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Not all the fallen Maiar were Balrogs. In fact, very few were. The Balrogs were the most formidable and feared servants of Melkor, but there were only "(say) three or at most seven" of them altogether, according to J. R. R. Tolkien. It seems like there's more in The Silmarillion because much of the quotes are derived from older texts when there are more, and the nature of the Balrogs was very different. But the fact remains, there were very few Balrogs. Some people just misunderstand what is written in the Silmarillion somehow and think that all of Melkor's fallen Maiar were Balrogs, that seems to be what you have done.
Balrogs do not look like they do because they are trapped inside those forms. On the contrary, they would seem to have some control over what form they take (like all Maiar, except in very special circumstances). Their forms are expressions of their personalities and natures.
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Probably. Wasn't it only Maia of Fire that became Balrogs? Sauron was a Maia of a higher Valar than the Maia of fire, wasn't he?
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10-22-2002, 01:29 PM | #6 |
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10-22-2002, 01:48 PM | #7 |
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The wargs were maia (probably) and they were mentioned here and there in the Sil
Morgoth, Linarryl, is the original dark lord, a "fallen" valar (think angelic power) who conspired to destroy the earth. he was defeated at the end of the first age. Sauron worked for him and continued his evil ways after Morgoth was defeated.
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Oh, OK! THanks for explaining!
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10-22-2002, 04:16 PM | #9 |
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Did you read the Sil Linarryl? Anyway, he known as Melkor. And I like him!!!
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In my opinion, Balrogs were fire Maiar....but not all fire Maiar became evil...take Arien for example Melkor did draw several Maiar to his side...of these the Balrogs are listed as is Sauron....formerly a Maia of Aule
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01-30-2003, 11:26 AM | #11 |
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The wargs were maia? I didn't know that. I guess it fits with Sauron's werewolf days.
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I think, perhaps, she meant werewolves?
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Dragons, Werewolves, and Dread Spiders were certainly NOT maiar, any more than Orcs were.
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The Werewolf that killed Finrod was Sauron transformed...
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No, It wasn't, because he killed it as well. With his bare hands and his teeth. After breaking his steel chains. After being starved for days or weeks.
And even after all that, he still managed to defeat it and live- it was poison/infection and blood loss that did him in.
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*needs to read the Silm again*
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