faramir not in rotk enough!

b.banner · 12-19-2003, 05:11 PM

i dont think they put faramir in rotk enough. i mean they didnt even have when he meets eowyn! he is more in the book than the movie

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***Jonathan*** · 12-19-2003, 06:07 PM

I believe Jackson's intention was to add that in the extended version.

Aewionen · 12-19-2003, 06:10 PM

I hope he is added more in the EE! I was really hoping to see when he and Eowyn meet.

Yodaman · 12-20-2003, 09:40 AM

At least he had a better part than in TTT. I loved his fight scene in ROTK.

ethuiliel · 12-21-2003, 01:14 AM

There was definetly (sp?) not enough of Faramir, and often when there was a scene with him in it they would cut to some other scene earlier than I thought they should have.

One of my favorite parts in the books was the Houses of Healing and the chapter where Faramir and Eowyn fall in love, and of course they decided to move those to the extended version.

There was one other thing I noticed about how little Faramir was in the movie compared to the book: In the book the only love story where you actually hear about them falling in love, and the only one with much detail is the one of Faramir and Eowyn. However, in the movie the most interaction with Faramir and Eowyn is that they stand next to each other at the coronation, while both of the other couples (Aragorn/Arwen and Sam/Rosie) are shown getting married.

Dúnedain · 12-21-2003, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by ethuiliel
One of my favorite parts in the books was the Houses of Healing and the chapter where Faramir and Eowyn fall in love, and of course they decided to move those to the extended version.

Well, while I like that scene too, it really isn't important to Frodo's quest to destroy the Ring or in the defense of Gondor...ya know?

There are other scenes that were cut that are more important than that one...

Bregalad · 12-29-2003, 01:39 AM

I think they will put the house of healing story in the EE, and then we will see more of Faramir. I certainly hope so, he is one handsome fellow!

ethuiliel · 12-30-2003, 05:16 PM

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I think that they will the houses of healing story in the EE, and then we will see more of Faramir.

I am prety sure they will, and I hope so. RotK was good, but I will not say that about the EE if they leave out as many important scenes as the theatrical version did.

Pimpernel · 12-30-2003, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Dúnedain
Well, while I like that scene too, it really isn't important to Frodo's quest to destroy the Ring or in the defense of Gondor...ya know?

The main plot may be about the destruction of the Ring and the defense of Middle Earth (not just Gondor), but there are other smaller plots, entwined within the main one. Like Aragorn and Arwen, or Eowyn's determinedness to fight...Many consider (however small it is) the love story of Eowyn and Faramir to be a very important one.

Anglorfin · 01-05-2004, 02:09 AM

After seeing the movies I can get a sense of what might be added in the extended edition. I believe that they will show the replanting of the White Tree for example. There are a few other places that could benefit in one way or another form aditions, one of which obviously being the houses of healing.

I think it would be very inconsiderate on PJ's part to leave Faramir's or Eowyn's ends of the story open. The houses of healing would bring closure to both characters. Something which is needed in order to make the whole story truly complete, because the last thing we see of Eowyn she is sad and dying, and Faramir seems like he is about to die any second. I think I would like the movie far less if I found that something more of Faramir and Eowyn was not added in the extended edition.

Millane · 01-05-2004, 02:17 AM

hahahaha i think PJ like Denethor and myself favoured Boromir to Faramir

personally i would prefer more of Eomer than Faramir. Faramir got the scene were he talks to Denethor about Boromir living instead of him, which is a perfect scene great acting by both John Noble and Diver Dan... Eomer didnt really get any great scene he had great bits like when Eowyn was telling Merry to be couragous and you could tell they were both nervous as hell then Eomer strides in on his horse with a look at the orcs saying "bring it on mother****ers" i just think Eomer deserves more than Faramir

**Nurvingiel** · 01-05-2004, 03:17 AM

Faramir is a more important character than Eomer. I also missed the Houses of Healing. Edit: and the Nazgul dart.

Twista · 01-05-2004, 11:48 AM

Did anyone also notice that in one of the trailers of RoTK you see Eomer kneelinh next to Theoden's dead body, and this ain't in the film. An obvious addition in the EE.

ethuiliel · 01-05-2004, 01:38 PM

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Faramir is a more important character than Eomer. I also missed the Houses of Healing. Edit: and the Nazgul dart.

I agree, and not just because Faramir is my favorite character. Faramir is very important. His choices affected the fate of the whole story; what happened to Frodo, Sam, Gollum and the ring. While Eomer was important, he was never faced with such a crucial decision. I wouldn't mind more of Eomer, but it's Faramir's character who wasn't resolved in the movie, and Faramir was a more important character in the first place.

***Earniel*** · 01-05-2004, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Anglorfin
I believe that they will show the replanting of the White Tree for example.

From what I remember seeing, it looked pretty much the same White Tree that simply came back in bloom again.

ryttu3k · 01-06-2004, 07:07 AM

Well, the total extended running time will be five hours... so plenty more scenes! They could even get the entire Scouring Of The Shire in, I guess o.o

But I agree. More Faramir!!

Thorin II · 01-06-2004, 04:05 PM

I really like the way Faramir was played in ROTK, but I agree about the Houses of the Healing. With as much time as RJ spent showing how unhappy Faramir and Eowyn were, I'm surprised he left out their meeting (or pushed it to the EE).

Isil Fallasion · 01-07-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Eärniel
From what I remember seeing, it looked pretty much the same White Tree that simply came back in bloom again.

I think, if they include the bit about the king's ability to heal, that instead of taking time to find a new sapling of the tree(which I did think was a very good scene in the book), they would have that somehow "heal" the tree as well. It's a similar idea just portrayed in a different manner.

Anglorfin · 01-07-2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Twista
Did anyone also notice that in one of the trailers of RoTK you see Eomer kneelinh next to Theoden's dead body, and this ain't in the film. An obvious addition in the EE.

Good, that was another added scene I was anticipating. And one that I think is needed very badly. I personally would have liked to see more of Eomer as well. He was such a badass character in the movies. I was especially disappointed when he and Aragorn didn't draw swords together at Helm's Deep and I feel that he needs something more in RotK.

That's a good suggestion, Fallasion. I could see that working very well for a movie audience. That is, if they do the houses of healing correctly. I like that idea a lot tho. And, welcome to the 'Moot!!

Isil Fallasion · 01-08-2004, 03:04 AM

Thank you for the welcome.

I too was looking forward to seeing Eomer's scene sobbing on the field over I guess it was Theoden's dead body. I've been playing the trailer on the my comp and going over that part frame by frame and I can't tell. The hair does kind of look like Theoden's though.

12-19-2003, 05:11 PM	#1
b.banner Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Trying to keep a hold on my temper so I don't turn into a big green guy. Posts: 572	faramir not in rotk enough! i dont think they put faramir in rotk enough. i mean they didnt even have when he meets eowyn! he is more in the book than the movie ! __________________ "We are going to tickle some Aes Sedai under the chin, rescue a mule, and put a snip-nosed girl on the Lion Throne. Oh, yes. That's Aviendha. Don't look at her cross-wise or she'll try to cut your throat and probably slit her own by mistake."-Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time "Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...."-Dr. Bruce Banner HULK BATMAN THE FLASH

12-19-2003, 06:07 PM	#2
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	I believe Jackson's intention was to add that in the extended version. __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

12-19-2003, 06:10 PM	#3
Aewionen Elf Lord Join Date: May 2003 Location: Strong Badia. I live in the tire. Posts: 791	I hope he is added more in the EE! I was really hoping to see when he and Eowyn meet. __________________ Aewionen, Maiden of Gondor `````````````````````````````` Home is behind the world ahead And there are many paths to tread Through shadow to the edge of night Until the stars are all alight. Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall fade "I feel a slight tingling feeling... I think its affecting me." -Legolas during a drinking contest (EE ROTK)

12-20-2003, 09:40 AM	#4
Yodaman Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Swamps of Dagobah Posts: 234	At least he had a better part than in TTT. I loved his fight scene in ROTK. __________________ "What about second breakfast?"

12-21-2003, 01:14 AM	#5
ethuiliel Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: USA until I find a way to get to Middle Earth Posts: 681	There was definetly (sp?) not enough of Faramir, and often when there was a scene with him in it they would cut to some other scene earlier than I thought they should have. One of my favorite parts in the books was the Houses of Healing and the chapter where Faramir and Eowyn fall in love, and of course they decided to move those to the extended version. There was one other thing I noticed about how little Faramir was in the movie compared to the book: In the book the only love story where you actually hear about them falling in love, and the only one with much detail is the one of Faramir and Eowyn. However, in the movie the most interaction with Faramir and Eowyn is that they stand next to each other at the coronation, while both of the other couples (Aragorn/Arwen and Sam/Rosie) are shown getting married. __________________ "...but I love not the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Numenor." "'I would,' said Faramir. And he took her in his arms and kissed her under the sunlit sky, and he cared not that they stood high upon the walls in the sight of many. And many indeed saw them and the light that shone about them as they came down from the walls and went hand in hand to the Houses of Healing."

12-29-2003, 01:39 AM	#7
Bregalad Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KY Posts: 217	I think they will put the house of healing story in the EE, and then we will see more of Faramir. I certainly hope so, he is one handsome fellow! __________________ "They have called me that ever since I said yes to an elder Ent before he had finished his question" -Quickbeam This post property of Entmoot.

01-05-2004, 02:09 AM	#10
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	After seeing the movies I can get a sense of what might be added in the extended edition. I believe that they will show the replanting of the White Tree for example. There are a few other places that could benefit in one way or another form aditions, one of which obviously being the houses of healing. I think it would be very inconsiderate on PJ's part to leave Faramir's or Eowyn's ends of the story open. The houses of healing would bring closure to both characters. Something which is needed in order to make the whole story truly complete, because the last thing we see of Eowyn she is sad and dying, and Faramir seems like he is about to die any second. I think I would like the movie far less if I found that something more of Faramir and Eowyn was not added in the extended edition. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

01-05-2004, 02:17 AM	#11
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	hahahaha i think PJ like Denethor and myself favoured Boromir to Faramir personally i would prefer more of Eomer than Faramir. Faramir got the scene were he talks to Denethor about Boromir living instead of him, which is a perfect scene great acting by both John Noble and Diver Dan... Eomer didnt really get any great scene he had great bits like when Eowyn was telling Merry to be couragous and you could tell they were both nervous as hell then Eomer strides in on his horse with a look at the orcs saying "bring it on mother****ers" i just think Eomer deserves more than Faramir __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

01-05-2004, 11:48 AM	#13
Twista Orodruin's Flame Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kananaskis, AB Posts: 1,194	Did anyone also notice that in one of the trailers of RoTK you see Eomer kneelinh next to Theoden's dead body, and this ain't in the film. An obvious addition in the EE.

01-06-2004, 07:07 AM	#16
ryttu3k Enting Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 61	Well, the total extended running time will be five hours... so plenty more scenes! They could even get the entire Scouring Of The Shire in, I guess o.o But I agree. More Faramir!!

01-06-2004, 04:05 PM	#17
Thorin II Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 161	I really like the way Faramir was played in ROTK, but I agree about the Houses of the Healing. With as much time as RJ spent showing how unhappy Faramir and Eowyn were, I'm surprised he left out their meeting (or pushed it to the EE).

01-08-2004, 03:04 AM	#20
Isil Fallasion Sapling Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5	Thank you for the welcome. I too was looking forward to seeing Eomer's scene sobbing on the field over I guess it was Theoden's dead body. I've been playing the trailer on the my comp and going over that part frame by frame and I can't tell. The hair does kind of look like Theoden's though.

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