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Old 02-08-2004, 04:33 PM   #1
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What's up with Sweden?

I ran into this article, as someone posted it on my website today. Needless to say, I find it pretty disturbing and was wondering what the hell is going on in Sweden, jeez...


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Swedes have more and more animal sex
Av Øyvind Ludt og Carin Pettersson 26.01.04 12:24


Animal sex is not illegal in Sweden, and every year between 200 and 300 pets are injured because of sexual assaults.

The estimate was presented by Svenska Veterinärforbundet, the Swedish veterinary organization, and it is now trying to make the authorities and the public more aware of animals’ suffering. The organization claim the problem has increased during the last couple of years, even if most people are unaware of it.

“We have seen an increase since 1999 when child pornography became illegal,” said Johan Beck-Friis. “It appears, in other words, as there are some people who have replaced children with animals. In both circumstances, it is sex with defenceless individuals.”

The injuries inflicted on animals after sexual assaults are of the same character of those children get. Beck-Friis said that the most common injuries are wounds on the sex organs and blisters.

Animal porn
The fact that animal sex is becoming an increasing problem can be indicated by the mere fact that there is an increasing selection of animal porn at video rentals and there an increasingly number of websites with animal pornography is surfacing.

No one knows for sure how many animals that are abused, but a British study from 2001 indicates that every 20th dog or cat that receives treatment at veterinaries, the injuries are not a result of a direct accident, but the animal has been inflicted the injury as a result of a sexual assault.

According to the Swedish paper Expressen, if the same estimate can be used in Sweden that will indicate that 200 to 300 dogs and cats every year are injured as a result of sexual assaults.

Not illegal
In contrast with most other countries, animal sex is not illegal in Sweden. It was decriminalized in 1944 in connection with the decriminalization of homosexual sex.
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:39 PM   #2
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Here is another article that came out a week later, I guess that one group is trying to get this outlawed in Sweden...


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SWEDEN:
Animal activists demand law against animal sex
Tilrettelagt av Carin Pettersson 06.02.04 12:03, ny 06.02.04 12:51

The Swedish veterinary organization claims that several hundred pets are raped in Sweden every year. Now there is a demand for a law making sex with animals illegal.

To rape an animal is not illegal in Sweden and the sexual assaults are becoming more and more common, stated Johan Beck-Friis at Sveriges Veterinärförbund (the Swedish veterinary organization), quoted Swedish paper Aftonbladet.

"The perpetrators are often just ordinary people with a family and children,” Beck-Friis explained. “Pets are most vulnerable. Dogs, and even cats, but also other animals like horses, cows and sheep.”

He now demands that Sweden makes animal sex illegal, and he is not alone. The paper reported that along with the Sveriges Veterinärförbund, Lantbrukarnas riksförbund (Farmers’ national organization), the Swedish Kennel Club Organization, Djurskyddet i Sverige (The Swedish animal protection organization) and Animal Rights Sweden want a law change.

According to Beck-Friis, the reason why the issue surface right now is because the number of assaults is increasing.

“It appears as if the assaults are becoming more common,” Beck-Friis said. “We have noticed an increase ever since child pornography became illegal in 1996.”

Sex with animals was decriminalized in 1944 when homosexual sex no longer became punishable by law.

The sexual assaults of animals have been received a lot of reactions lately, among others in the Swedish radio program Front a couple a weeks ago. A man called in to the program and defended animal sex.

“I have sex with horses and dogs too. It is not as complicated as having sex with people,” the man stated.

The problem has even been discussed in the Swedish government. Gustav Fridolin, member of the Swedish environmental party, presented a motion to make animal sex illegal last year, but only six persons voted in favour of the bill.

“They are afraid of dictating sexual preferences,” Beck-Friis said. “We firstly want a law against sexual assaults. When animals are hurt, we must react.”
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:44 PM   #3
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Jonathan, please explain.



By the way, that's Norwegian tabloid-press you're quoting there.
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:45 PM   #4
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Jonathan, please explain.



By the way, that's Norwegian tabloid-press you're quoting there.
Oh is it? So this isn't true then?
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 02-08-2004, 04:49 PM   #5
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Oh is it? So this isn't true then?
Oh yes, it's true. But Nettavisen (Netnews) is accounted among the not-so-serious news in Norway (which just means they have a lot of weird stuff, and some of their news should be taken with a grain of salt/sugar).
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:50 PM   #6
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Oh yes, it's (very probably) true. But Nettavisen (Netnews) is accounted among the not-so-serious news in Norway (that just means they have a lot of weird news).
Well if it's true, it is disgusting nonetheless! Why is this stuff legal?
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 02-08-2004, 04:50 PM   #7
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man thats just sick
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Old 02-08-2004, 04:51 PM   #8
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Animal sex has been given more attention in the press after a guy on radio talked about how he had had sex with horses and dogs.
Parliament cannot outlaw animal sex so easily because the they are of the opinion that they have nothing to do in people's bedrooms. However they are discussing how to make laws regarding harming animals tougher so that no animal comes to harm, which would be like banning animal sex.

Don't think I have sex with animals just because I'm Swedish
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Don't think I have sex with animals just because I'm Swedish

maybe we should just stereotype all swedish wait im swedish, man im sick
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Don't think I have sex with animals just because I'm Swedish
Sure you don't Jon And people want him as President of Entmoot!


hehe j/k, I know, I just found it weird that it's legal in the country
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Old 02-08-2004, 05:07 PM   #11
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hehe j/k, I know, I just found it weird that it's legal in the country
I knew you'd say that.
Like I said, it's sensitive for Parliament to pass laws about what people do in their own bedrooms (or in this case stables or whatever, yuk). But by tightening laws about animal rights, animal sex can be made illegal.
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The only thing is, even if it's illegal people will still do it. There was a man who lived near us who used to have sex with sheep and thankfully he was charged. I can't remember if he served a sentence or not. I hope he did. It's sick!
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Wow - if I ever have a Swede come visit - I'll make sure I keep my dogs somewhere else and they never are allowed to be around them without me there.
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That's disguisting!! That's rape, that's abuse, that's sick!

I don't know how it is in Finland, but I can imagie that our stupid politicans think the same way as the swedish do. I cannot understand that in any way.
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Sex with animals is not legal in Norway (I wasn't sure after reading this, I had to look it up), but nevertheless I'm sure it happens. It sounds disgusting to me, and I don't understand how anyone could possibly want it.
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Is this why you wanted a dog, Jonathan?
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Old 02-09-2004, 10:49 AM   #17
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Is this why you wanted a dog, Jonathan?
I heard that Texans in particular don't treat their animals well:
More than 30 pit bulls found in investigation
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Van found with 23 dogs, 3 cats, chicken
Is this why you just got a dog?
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Ew, Jon, guilty by association!
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I heard that Texans in particular don't treat their animals well:
More than 30 pit bulls found in investigation
If you read my posts in the fox hunting thread, you'd know I find blood sports to be especially disgusting. That is especially true for dog fighting. Anyone who would pit one dog against another for their own personal pleasure in watching the dogs rip at each other, maiming and killing each other... is just a waste of human life, IMO.
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OMG!!! Please tell me that brown stuff is not feces in the van!!! *tosses cookies* EEEEEEEWWWWW!!!!
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Ew, Jon, guilty by association!
See what we can find on the Kiwis... Oh, according to nationmaster.com, the Kiwis have the highest number of rapes per capita. BoP's fault?
To stay somewhat on topic, Sweden has the highest nuclear energy consumption per capita. What's up with the country?
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