08-28-2002, 05:42 PM | #1 |
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So Melkor went bad because he wanted all of the power. Why would melkor hide if he is the strongest physicaly over all of them and i thought Eru made the elves look like the aniur. this forum is very helpful!
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08-28-2002, 08:17 PM | #2 |
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I think Melkor was afraid that the Valar would gang up on him, and so they did. There is power in numbers.
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08-28-2002, 09:20 PM | #3 |
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I think melkor could take them all at once thats why tulkas came to help with the battle
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08-28-2002, 09:53 PM | #4 |
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Eru did not make the Elves to look like the Ainur. He made them to be like the Ainur in spirit.
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08-29-2002, 03:27 PM | #5 |
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When the Ainur appeared in physical form, they chose to appear similar to the Elves, who were the Children of Illuvatar closest to the hearts of the Valar, rather than the other way round.
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09-05-2002, 04:49 PM | #6 |
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im so with sister golden hair you rule! oh and i even nedded a little help on that ?
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10-11-2002, 08:40 PM | #8 |
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Lefty, that's soo true. But even if he knew fear, and he wanted power, then even if he did defeat the Valar, wouldn't he have to deal with Eru himself?? or... sorry if I'm not making sense here...
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10-25-2002, 09:12 PM | #9 |
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How did Melkor know fear?
I think that was the problem too
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01-24-2003, 07:03 PM | #11 |
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Why does it say Manwë was most powerful and that Melkor was almost as powerful as him and that was why they were almost like brothers?(or something like that)
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01-25-2003, 07:15 PM | #13 |
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OOHhhh
ok now I understand thanks
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02-08-2003, 03:55 PM | #14 |
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Melkor was most powerfull because he was not limmited to use his powers, where as the other valar could only use their powers to a certain degree. This is what i think anyway. Melkor knew that he couldn't take all the valar at once because they would over power him.
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02-12-2003, 02:55 PM | #15 |
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Thats very true manafirogh melkor could not defeat the valar alone even if he was the greatest and that is why he alone of them knew fear. The good valar did not know fear becausr they had nothing TO fear.what could Melkor do to all of them??
Plus when melkor took physical form as a dark lord he lost some of his power as hurin said to him.He couldnt go among the people of beleriand anymore and cloud their minds with lies. which in the end caused most damage.
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