04-16-2008, 09:17 PM | #1 |
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Guillermo Del Toro directing TH
Latest news: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/hobbitnews.php?id=44069
So there's an apparent 95% chance that Del Toro's directing. I can honestly say that I'm relieved, since this'll shut up the Jackson-haters, and because Pan's Labyrinth was simply a miracle in filmmaking. But what do you guys think? |
04-16-2008, 09:33 PM | #2 |
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I think, "Frik, yeah" Because I like him as a director. I'm also excied about the H.P. Lovecraft story that he is supposed to deliver in 2010.
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I do think Del Toro did a great job with Pan's Labyrinth. I don't think Del Toro has ever done a children's story. I do think Blade II and Hellboy were both crap and Mimic was marginal. I don't think The Hobbit movie is going to be a whimsical G-rated story. I do think there will be as many gory shots as they can get away with and still keep it PG-13. I don't think it will be appropriate for my (at that time) 9 year old. I do think I'm going to like it more than I liked TT or RotK. I don't know why Jackson's producing but not directing.
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I thought the whole Blade series was toilet food.
I actually like Hellboy quite a bit, what didnt you like about it? ( I love discussion)
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This guy's movies are far too dark for him to be making the Hobbit.
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That would be Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
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That one is also definitely on the list.
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re: Hellboy. I don't even remember why I didn't like it. I only remember the reaction. Maybe I should Netflix it again.
re: gore. Sure, Curufin. There is the troll's knock-down, drag-out among themselves and then their capture and brutal treatment of the dwarves. There is the capture of the dwarves and Bilbo during which Gandalf kills a few with a magic flash. There is the killing of the Great Goblin, which will doubtless be expanded into a great underground battle. There is the spider battle. There is Beorn's capture and murder of a wolf and orc. There is Smaug's destruction of Lake Town. And there is the Battle of Five Armies. Plenty of opportunity for the makeup and effects people to do their business. re: age level. The book is a children's story. I first read it to my daughter when she was five. She first saw the animated movie when she was 7. I'd love to see a version that maintains the joy and whimsy of the book.
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Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was a great film, IF you like the genre. I happen to think it was wonderful. I liked Hero even better. House of Flying Daggers was visually a masterpiece. But all of it is the kind of stuff you either like or you don't.
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re:re) Hellboy- Haha, maybe. It's an okay movie. It didnt make my list of faves, but I'd watch it again.
True about Crouching Tiger. That genre is rather hit or miss. You either like it or you dont. I dont think there is a way to "acquire the taste" either.
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Guys, guys...I don't think you should be so quick to say that del Toro is automatically going to put gore into the movie just because he's a horror-specialist. PJ was only making horror films by the time he made LOTR, and he did a somewhat fair job(please don't bash me) with it.
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But if 'Pan's Labyrinth' is his idea of a 'Fairy Tale' I don't really want to see what he's going to do with The Hobbit. I'm sure it will be different, but the truth is that directors have a signature style. And his isn't appropriate for this.
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*screams in pain*
Well, his interests in filmmaking are pretty dark, but I still think he would make a fairly good adaptation with TH, as Hellboy was a particular among comic book adaptations, and his talent at characterization (once again, I hold up Hellboy) is better than PJ's at least. |
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I think the atmosphere is most important, though. The whimsical, happy, fa-la-la-singing-Elves sort of feeling. I'm not sure he can do that.
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I was disappointed with Pan's Labyrinth. Some people rec'd it to me (and normally I trust their judgement), but ... it didn't do anything for me.
I hope he doesn't **** the Hobbit up. (o.o) Quote:
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It seems shocking because we're used to Disney's fluffiefied fairies, but in the real Cinderella the Stepsisters cut off bits of their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper and end by getting their eyes pecked out by Cinderella's songbird helpers. And in the Three Little Pigs the first two pigs get eaten and the last actually eats the wolf. Never mind the Nordic Sagas or Arthurian Legends... The mythologies that Tolkien was working from had far more gratuitous violence than anything Del Toro is likely to do to The Hobbit. Which doesn't mean that he should make it less than kid appropriate, it just means that he won't really be breaking the tradition it's written within if he chooses to be more honest to the reality of the adventure and its inherent dangers than to the few moments of whimsy present in Hobbiton and Rivendell.
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But if he loses the riddle game, he gets eaten. Whimsy doesn't necessarily preclude creepiness.
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I have little doubt it will be made for the same age-group PJ's LotR was made for.
While LotR is an epic classic adult book with a film dumbed-down to the mass market, TH is a classic children's book with a film that will be scaled-up in maturity to the mass market.
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