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12-18-2008, 07:17 PM | #1 | |
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The Russian animated Hobbit film that was never finished
Hi folks. Does anyone remember me being on this forum 8 years ago?
Anyway... I think some of you may find this interesting: The Treasure Under the Mountain (EDIT: removed old link which no longer works) To quote myself from the Youtube description: Quote:
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12-19-2008, 12:13 AM | #2 |
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This is indeed very interesting! The animation was great. Very similar to the American cartoon of The Hobbit, but more vibrant.
It's also weird as heck .
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12-19-2008, 03:18 AM | #3 |
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12-19-2008, 03:51 AM | #4 |
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That's really good! Is there any more of it?
It isn't quite The Hobbit: it's a different telling of the tale. I can see that getting it licensed might have posed a problem. But it is quite good. What became of the rest of it, if you know? |
12-19-2008, 04:31 AM | #5 | |
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The thing you mentioned about telling the tale in a different way is typical of Russian animated films, particularly from the Soviet era when they could adapt all of this stuff without worrying about copyright. They would completely change the look and style of the work being adapted if needed, but the result would often be a stronger film. An often-cited example are the Russian Winnie-the-Pooh films (1, 2, 3), which are drastically different from Disney's. Or the Dr. Seuss adaptations (but you won't find any of those on Youtube because Seuss Ent. takes them all down, even though they had nothing to do with the making of them). I think that many of the cartoons more accurately portray the "heart" of the stories, even while they ignore the surface similarities. By contrast, many Western adaptations often strive to get the outward "look" just right, but completely ignore the "soul" of the originals. However, as far as this Hobbit adaptation goes, I can't see anything non-canon in this prologue. It actually seems to stick to Tolkien quite well, aside from not starting off at Bilbo Baggins' hobbit hole, of course. P.S. The voice of Gandalf was done by Nikolai Karachentsov, a fairly popular actor. Last edited by Niffiwan : 12-19-2008 at 04:46 AM. |
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12-20-2008, 11:53 AM | #6 |
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I need to learn Russian >_<
But on topic: I like the way of telling the story. It's all quite musical and easy to visualize the mood of the story. I like it. I wonder if they will ever bring out the whole story...?
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12-20-2008, 11:54 AM | #7 |
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Well, I guess "weird" to me would be the strange song at the beginning. But like I said before, the mood of the clip was remarkably like that of the American version of The Hobbit. Even Gandalf looked the same.
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12-20-2008, 05:10 PM | #8 |
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All in all the beginning was promising, although they could pick up a singer with a less "scratchy" voice.
Too bad the Tolkien Estate won't merit any attempts on cutting into their big, lumpy "pie". Any way, thanks for sharing.
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12-21-2008, 03:21 PM | #9 |
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Looks quite cute. Pity they abandoned it.
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12-21-2008, 03:45 PM | #10 |
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I really liked it!! It was so vivid... and I love that 'old time' animated feel... it's not like the super smooth animation of today. I think I prefer the old style.
Surprisingly, I didn't mind the singer. I thought it was interesting. |
12-21-2008, 05:49 PM | #11 |
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I actually like the idea of an animated The Hobbit better than the idea of a live-action movie now.
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12-21-2008, 11:58 PM | #12 |
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Very interesting...
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12-23-2008, 10:14 AM | #13 |
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Thanks for sharing, Niffiwan!
Old animations have something about them. This one I think conveys a cosy atmosphere. Imagine your Russian grandmother telling this fairytale one night at the fireplace On another note, it's quite extrordinary to see a mooter return after eight years of absence, isn't it? Welcome back Niffiwan!
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01-07-2009, 11:23 PM | #14 |
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Niffwan, Very, very well done. Thank you for sharing. Totally new to me. It looks like they were about to tell the story from the viewpoint of the Dwarves, instead of Hobbits. I wonder how they would have treated the ring. Very very interesting.
Speaking of copywright laws, I daresay NBC would have something to say about that Peacock!
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01-10-2009, 01:07 AM | #15 | |
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Plus, this let them put off the difficult task of designing Bilbo himself until they were sure whether the film would actually go forward. |
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01-10-2009, 09:57 AM | #16 |
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Very interesting. Nice prologue/forward - sort of like what they did for the LOTR movie.
The way the Dwarves marched made me think of 'Snow White'.
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01-10-2009, 10:38 AM | #17 |
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*chuckles*
I thought that too ^_^
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01-16-2009, 02:45 AM | #18 |
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If it had been finished I would've watched it, had it been translated into English. I don't mind reading subtitles, but the voice of the singer was eerie. The animation was wigging me out, too, but I could've lived with it. Not bad animation... just the tone of the voices and the mood it put forth was creep-tastic... and in some shots it looked animated like Rankin-Bass and then in others it looked more like Bakshi's irritating half-animated-half-wanna-be-live-action... so I got a little freaked. I wouldn't watch it in the dark.
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12-17-2012, 12:54 AM | #19 |
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The Russian Hobbit movie is gone from Youtube but I've re-uploaded it here (hope the subtitles work):
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xke...994_shortfilms I noticed something neat, by the way: Peter Jackson's new movie has an homage to this Russian Hobbit adaptation in the beginning of the movie. The destruction of Dale is portrayed similarly to the way the Russians did it, right down to the flying kite-dragons that are shown before the real dragon shows up. Last edited by Niffiwan : 12-17-2012 at 08:35 AM. |
12-17-2012, 02:32 PM | #20 |
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That was an interesting clip - thank you!
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