10-04-2005, 10:21 AM | #1 |
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LOTR & Spirituality
I was wondering if anyone could help me. I am doing some reasearch on LOTR for my 3rd yr dissertation and I would love people's input. If you could take a moment to answer the following question:
Has LOTR has any deep impact on your spiritual journey and if so in what way? (Either films or books but please state which or both) If you don't feel comfortable posting here, please send me a message or email. By the way, this is any kind of spirituality, you don't have to be of a particular religion or belief but if you follow a particualr religion, please let me know if you answer! Thank you very much -Emily |
10-04-2005, 10:52 AM | #2 |
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Hello Lil_Roo and welcome to Entmoot.
I am moving your thread to the Lord of the Rings forum, and you will find that we already have a numerous amount of spiritual threads in the General Messages forum. Please feel free to participate in any one of them. Again, welcome and enjoy your stay.
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10-04-2005, 11:14 AM | #3 |
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welcome! good question... i'm not spiritual, but since lotr is something i read at a very young age (my first "adult" book), it certainly had an effect on my outlook on life... will try to add some detailed thoughts later
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10-04-2005, 11:43 AM | #4 |
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10-04-2005, 12:18 PM | #5 |
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I'm not religious, but I would say that LOTR hooked into a spiritual aspect of how I relate to the natural world. Like BJ, I was probably at a particularly susceptible age, but LOTR embeds respect for nature in a way that I have not seen elsewhere.
Specifically, good things in LOTR are the ones which respect and live in harmony with their environment while evil things are the ones which don't. |
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10-04-2005, 04:09 PM | #7 |
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10-04-2005, 04:23 PM | #8 |
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10-04-2005, 10:21 PM | #9 |
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I'm not quite sure yet how much of an impact LOTR has had on me, but I do know it's chock full of Catholic allegory. Yes, I will answer objections, starting with Lotesse
P.S., welcome to the moot, Lil Roo ...you should get an avatar.
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techically LOTR has spirutual applicability, not allegory, tolkien himself despised allegory and all its forms, granted there is a spirutual applicability that i'm sure you and Lotesse can argue about
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10-05-2005, 12:18 PM | #11 |
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What?????????
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10-05-2005, 12:21 PM | #12 |
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10-05-2005, 12:29 PM | #13 |
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my friends in London have a name for such people: "twits".
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you have friends??
just kidding
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10-05-2005, 03:01 PM | #15 |
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Oh, jocularity, I recognize that.
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YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!! APPLICABILITY DOES NOT EQUAL ALLEGORY! Just thought I'd let you know you were right and all... . See The Choice in Middle Earth thread for pertinent applicable commentary.
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thanks, at least someone agrees, or at least seems to agree There really is a lot of symbolism that can be applied to life in LOTR and as tolkien was catholic i'm sure there are some parts of LOTR that were influenced by his faith
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10-05-2005, 07:15 PM | #18 |
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Whoops I think I used the wrong term...not allegory, but "suspicious similarities". For example, March 25 (the day the Ring was destroyed) coincides with the traditional date of the Crucifixion. Was it really a coincedence?
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Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) |
10-05-2005, 08:16 PM | #19 |
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where did you get that date, no one ever mentioned that date to me, my reference books don't have a date, are you sure about that date?
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10-05-2005, 08:27 PM | #20 |
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Google it. There's tons of stuff. Incidentally, what was the date this year of Good Friday? March 25
But there's more references than that. For instance, Purgatory (Paths of the Dead), Christ's Resurrection (Gandalf, it's probably been said a million times...), and in the Silmarillion are references to a Heaven and a Hell, as well as angels(good Maiar), archangels(Ainur), Satan (Melkor, including a rebellion remarkably similar to the one depicted in Revelation), and demons (evil Maiar). But I think there's another thread for this discussion...something like "Christian themes in LOTR"...
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Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) |
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