11-20-2001, 05:48 AM | #1 |
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where are the sindar?
mirkwood and lorien had mostly silvan populations
lindon and rivendel noldar where are the sindar?
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11-20-2001, 01:01 PM | #2 |
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I think that, by the late third age, the Sindar population could be found in Lindon (including the Grey Havens), Rivendel, Mirkwood and Lorien. The fact is, by that time, the Sindar lived among other elven peoples. Nevertheless they were the most numerous group in Lindon (were they apparently merged with the various Nandor groups).In Mirkwood and Lorien they apparently constituted an aristocratic minority among the much more numerous sylvan population. I believe that you can find more about this in the “Unfinished Tales”.
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11-20-2001, 02:27 PM | #3 |
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11-20-2001, 04:19 PM | #4 |
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hey afro elf...
Did you know that, in sindarin, you would be 'Rhosglawsellon'?
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11-20-2001, 05:21 PM | #5 |
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my gawd that's a mouth full
can you break it into its component parts?
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11-20-2001, 06:49 PM | #6 |
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Heheh.
Pronounced (roughly) rosg-laws-ellon. Rhosg : 'Brown' Laws : Hair, denotating curls or ringlets. Ellon : Masculine form of edhel. So it would mean (roughly) 'brown male elf with ringlets of hair' or 'Male elf with ringlets of brown hair' I would have used 'big [curly] haired elf' bu i couldn't find anything suitable for 'big' or 'large' :P
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11-21-2001, 06:02 AM | #7 |
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Well my friend that is rather cool
Even though afro here means one of African descent as opposed to hair style But that is a hilarious image an elf with a big 1970’s super bush I can see legolas with a mega-fro, bell bottoms and platform shoes Running gently across the snow at Cadehoros (SP?) What follows may be offensive to those who are, post-modernist, deconstructionist, super liberal, politically correct types or basically anyone who suffered from the post 60’s educational system and doesn’t know it The history of the first age by afro-elf See we was chillin’ in da mudda land when this giant valar ( Englishman/American imperialist) comes and says “we are gonna take you to the promised land” But this evil valar melkor was the leader of a group of people called nazis and they had had captured many of our youths and made them orcs. Now orcs were like our own people but they were corrupted and called themselves niggas instead of the avari word Negro. Basically they were loud and rude and gave all the rest of us a really bad name Anyway because of melkor the german nazi valar, we did trust this orome dude And we send 3 of our homeys to check it out. They came back and said cool. Except for elwe who was now called thingol. Thingol did trust the valar who he called “whitey” but he did manage to throw down some afro-elf love on one of their woman: melian who he brought back to the motherland. She was down with us and thingol and her made the funkiest land in middle earth. Doraith. We just chilled. Playing smooth jazz, cards and basket ball. our orc cousins though busied themselves with gangster rap and drive bys and learning black speech (aka) ebonics now the sell out noldar come back messin’ up our stuff. They’ve been corrupted by whitey and are full greed and venegence over some jewelry thingol said let whitey’s lackey’s make their own war an the nazis but whitey’s disease affected us all. Thingol had a fine mulatto daughter who wanted to marry an edain (aka latino, short lived but fast breeding) we were like at least he aint no sell noldar. Besides he’ll be dead in a few years and we’ll live forever but NO, he had to go ask for a silmaril. So what happens? He gets killed by dwarves( the forefathers of jews and arabs, they WERE one group at one time) they have long beards will go to war over slights, sequester their women so none can see them and like gold and have a rep for being greedy and stubborn) then the valar and all their sell out lackey’s wage war in the motherland and mess it up so bad that they destroy it. (talk about exploiting a people) so after the first age we kinda all went back east to closer to the original home to get back to our roots with our moriquendi( dark-elf) leaders to lorien and greenwood the great. Hey even galadriel fell for some of the afro-elf love. Celeborn is moriquendi and when they say dark speakers dey jus be jealous of dee afro elf love talk we be don put on some of dere finest women Speaking of my homey why is everyone down on my man celeborn He got the finest white woman on the planet, she was tutored my melian i guess she learned well, then some runt dwarf comes to his kingdom and makes a pass at his wife and you expect him to chill? Come on the dwarves killed his uncle and sacked his home Then greedy bastards awaken a balrog that leads to the death of amroth another Kinsman and great lord peace out
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11-21-2001, 03:31 PM | #8 |
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LOL!
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11-24-2001, 06:24 AM | #9 |
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new name
i think that i will use the term
baranevair thanks for the rhosglawellon but i need a personal touch for my own rpg pc baran [] n. brown, swart, dark brown, golden brown, yellow brown evair [] n. pl. an elf, one of the Avari This plural name was known to the loremasters, but went out of daily use at the time of the Exile
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11-24-2001, 04:17 PM | #10 |
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It is a good invention, but keep in mind it is a Sindarin name. I am sorry for nit-picking, but the Avari would not have called themselves the Avari (Evair), 'the Refusers'. Baranevair would be the name that Grey-elves give them.
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11-24-2001, 05:24 PM | #11 |
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Try primitive elvish. that would be close to dark elvish.
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11-24-2001, 05:38 PM | #12 |
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Not any more than Sindarin, or Quenya. Quenya 'Quendi' is closer to Primitive Quendian 'Kwendî' than Avarin Kinn-lai is.
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11-24-2001, 05:51 PM | #13 |
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Yeah... I guess you're right.
I wonder if it would be possible to figure out the exact rules of permutation that went into changing Primitive Elvish to Quenya/Sindarin/Avarin/etc?
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11-24-2001, 07:47 PM | #14 |
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i was looking for a sindarian name as to what the west/north elves would call them
since they evolved along a different linguistic path i can just invent stuff myself
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12-06-2001, 01:21 AM | #15 |
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History of the First Age, according to Afro-Elf - FUNNY!
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12-07-2001, 04:45 AM | #16 |
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thanks
actually wayfarer has some really wicked wit ask him about his definition( or why she is called) for eowyn's pseudonym DERNHELM
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12-10-2001, 06:29 PM | #17 |
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Afro Elf - That was HYSTERICAL! You rock!
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12-10-2001, 10:33 PM | #18 |
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Whoa ! Whoa! Whoa!
Humour? Where did this come from?
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12-11-2001, 03:53 AM | #19 |
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Lets see if I can come up with something for the LOTR
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