10-11-2004, 09:34 AM | #1 |
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I have created this thread for people to comment on the current gov't in UK, and who they might like to see voted in after Blair is gone.
My view is that the Liberal Democrats should be elected. One of their promises is that University would become much freer that it is now, and we have already seen them deliver on this in Scotland, so why not give them a chance 'down south'? |
10-11-2004, 12:47 PM | #2 |
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In theory, I'd agree, though in practice I'm not sure they actually have a coherent and credible set of policies. Although they were the only party that opposed the Iraq war, I thought they did a pretty pants job of putting across the anti-war argument.
We have a lib-dem council, and they always seem to adopt the populist stance. Like when they rallied behind some NIMBYs objecting to a new bus route for the local hospital because it would mean their house prices would go down. Lib-dem councillor: Would you like to sign the petition to object to this dreadful new bus route? The Gaffer: So, you think we shouldn't have better public transport, then? Ldc: er... no, of course we should have better public transport, er, it should just go somewhere else The Gaffer: Right, so the people who work for the NHS and therefore can't afford to buy a house within 20 miles of the hospital should just get a job somewhere else, then? Or should they buy another car and add to the congestion instead? Ldc: er, * starts sweating *, erm don't you think that Charles Kennedy is a nice young man? Actually, Charles Kennedy seems like a good bloke, though the British people will never elect a redhead. Having said that, I might end up voting for them just because Bliar is such an arse, and the Tories are even worse. God, it's so depressing. Gordon Brown for PM! |
11-02-2004, 04:39 PM | #3 |
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I would like to see Gordon Brown as PM.
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11-02-2004, 04:40 PM | #4 |
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*sniggers* Is that one of those controversial statments to cause an argument?
(But yes... maaaaybe me too) Sorry, I forgot: Why?!
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a) not obsessed with spin b) anti-Euro c) not Thatcherite d) responsible for the govt's best policies to date Therefore he is better than Blair or Howard. EDIT: or Charles Kennedy. Funny how I always forget about him.
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11-02-2004, 04:49 PM | #6 |
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I'm for Charle's Kennedy as PM.
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11-05-2004, 09:46 AM | #8 |
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11-05-2004, 11:51 AM | #9 |
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I did. The No Campaign took only one line - don't create yet more politicians, especially when they don't have real powers. The best the Yes Campaign could come up with was to get Brendan Foster to write us all a letter.
Personally, I think regionalisation is the only way forward for both the North and the West of England. Investment decreases with distance from London - and I'm talking per capita, not just total - even for public money like lottery grants. Without a proper regional government, that isn't going to change. The problem is, proper regional government wasn't offered.
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Tony Blair lost my vote as soon as he embarked on an ill-fated decision to join America in the war in Iraq whole-heartedly regardless of opposition and dissension, not to mention going to war on a blatant false premise.
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11-05-2004, 01:29 PM | #12 |
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As all right thinking people know, that's a load of dingo's kidneys, but let's not go THERE again.
I'm with you, Draken, for the same reasons. Pity, because Labour are taking the health service and education (fees excepted) in the right direction, after 20 years of being run down. They've actually been a pretty radical government in many ways (minimum wage, devolution, freedom of information act, etc), though admittedly many of them have been totally botched (House of Lords reform). The most positive thing is that after 20 years of politicians being terrified of saying the word "tax" without the word "cut" immediately afterwards, there is now a consensus here that if you want decent public services then you have to pay for them somehow. Most of that is down to the achievement of Bliar's ministers, especially Brown, and not Bambi himself though. I wish they'd ditch him and install The Broon. |
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JUST ADMIT IT. THERE AINT NO WMD LEFT IN IRAQ. Cowards... Gee you yanks nailed down that whole "wmd" thing. Oh gee (sarcasm monitor exploding), well (snigger) done (chortle) on that.
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And who are you to decide, misceleanous poster.... Perhaps the people did and do have their long term intrest's in view... Who are you to say...?
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I have been to no top secret meetings (I'm guessing that that as a rhetorcal question!) yet shouldn't the leader at least listen to the followers and give them a good reason. When no weapons were found in Iraq he never said "Sorry, I was wrong" he said that there were no nuclear, biological or chemical weapons found in Iraq, but they were still right to go.
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Was it wrong intel????? Was Bush wrong??? One perhap should ask these questions closer to jersey. Perhaps.
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This is getting off topic.
Should we split off the parts about Bush? Or do you guys want to just leave them in but get back to UK Politics?
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