02-10-2002, 12:22 PM | #1 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Dorset
Posts: 608
|
Bill?
Can anyone tell me what colour Bill was? I thought he was grey but a quick look at FotR hasn't revealed any evidence for this.
|
02-10-2002, 01:18 PM | #2 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan?
Posts: 1,315
|
Y'know, I actually never really thought about it, but I have no idea what color Bill was. In the movie, he was chestnut, or whatever it's called, but I don't now about the books . . . Good question.
__________________
The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka |
02-10-2002, 02:25 PM | #3 |
Bard of Mangled Songs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila
Posts: 2,679
|
BTW, did you know that they used 2 extras to double for Bill while they were climbing up on the snow? They had to go by chopper in order to get to pristine snow during that part where the ring is picked up by Broromir.
It came from Ian McKellen himself on his website.
__________________
Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert Accio, Ash Nazg! Elennuru s?*la lúmenn' omentielvo (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... Last edited by Arathorn : 02-11-2002 at 12:27 AM. |
02-10-2002, 07:13 PM | #4 |
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Uk
Posts: 447
|
i always saw Bill as a brown short stubby pony in the Books
film had glancing shots of him, and they were ok |
02-10-2002, 11:37 PM | #5 |
Elven Lady of Speed-posting
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the cheese state
Posts: 988
|
I'd always thought of Bill as brown, and rather homely (for a pony.) I don't know for sure, though. He could very well be grey.
__________________
Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.) |
02-13-2002, 04:35 AM | #6 |
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 115
|
what ever colour you think he is is what he is. You dont need proof.
|
02-13-2002, 07:04 AM | #7 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan?
Posts: 1,315
|
Legolas_Bowking: But what if it said that he was grey in the books and we thought he was brown? (those colors are random) Then it would not be true that whatever color we think he is he is.
Unfortunately, even after reading FotR again, I don't know what color he is.
__________________
The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka |
02-13-2002, 10:54 AM | #8 |
Bard of Mangled Songs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila
Posts: 2,679
|
Whether he's grey or brown; If he went in the mines he'd probably end up Bill the White like Gandalf.
__________________
Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert Accio, Ash Nazg! Elennuru s?*la lúmenn' omentielvo (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... |
02-13-2002, 01:52 PM | #9 |
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Uk
Posts: 447
|
bill the white, would WHOOP Shadowfax in any race!!!
hehehe |
02-14-2002, 07:15 PM | #10 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan?
Posts: 1,315
|
__________________
The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka |
02-15-2002, 04:42 PM | #11 |
EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED
DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Littleton, CO
Posts: 1,176
|
Good one, Arathorn, and plus, he'd be a heck of a lot skinnier....
__________________
"...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160. |
02-16-2002, 07:58 PM | #12 | |
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: KY
Posts: 217
|
all you ever wanted to know about Bill the pony, courtesy of The Tolkien Companion:
Quote:
Personally, I always saw him as a shaggy little grey pony!
__________________
"They have called me that ever since I said yes to an elder Ent before he had finished his question" -Quickbeam This post property of Entmoot. |
|
02-16-2002, 11:42 PM | #13 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA
Posts: 561
|
I always imagined Bill a deep chocolate brown.
__________________
Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty! |
02-21-2002, 12:20 AM | #14 |
Sapling
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 7
|
Bill's Color and other details
The color of Bill is left out of FotR and many details such as that throughout all the books. I believe that the main reason for this is that Tolkien wanted people to form their own ideas of what the characters looked like in their minds. He gave a template, and you filled in the blanks. Take Gandalf. We know he had a long white beard, we know he had bushy eyebrows, and wise eyes. But what color were they? Did he have a receeding hairline? Exactly how tall was he? Was his face really wrinkled? Did he have a hard tan, as far as we can tell, he spent most of his time outdoors, so he would be probably have a wind-chapped face. Details like this are left out so that you can form your own opinion. What color do you think Bill is? How did he look in your mind? He was a pony, and that is enough to keep the story going while making your personal FotR experience unique and special to you. Anyway, that's just how I feel about it.
Darius O'Herran
__________________
"May the road rise to meet you. May the Wind always be at your back. May rain fall soft upon your fields, and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand." -Celtic Blessing Oh yeah, and FRODO LIVES!!! |
02-21-2002, 01:35 AM | #15 |
Enting
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 68
|
Well put Darius!
I imagine Bill to be a little on the small size, brown in colour, shabby looking with a kind of 'shaggy' coat. But I always wonder what kind of adventures Bill had when he left the fellowship at the gates of Moria. Did he go straight back to Bree, or did he stop over in Rivendell? Was he chased by orcs or wolves? Or did he narrowly avoid becoming the main meal at a Troll's spit-roast dinner (with roast hobbit and dwarves as a side dish!!)?
__________________
Nameless and Faceless, but not Voiceless - - - Do you hear me? Last edited by Nameless : 02-21-2002 at 01:36 AM. |
02-21-2002, 02:01 AM | #16 |
Bard of Mangled Songs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila
Posts: 2,679
|
Well, in that case, I'm a shaggy gray Bill believer.
__________________
Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert Accio, Ash Nazg! Elennuru s?*la lúmenn' omentielvo (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... |
02-21-2002, 11:11 AM | #17 |
Elf Lord
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Dorset
Posts: 608
|
Yep. I realise the facts left to the reader's imaginations are important, I just wanted to know whether it's mentioned anywhere and what anyone else thinks.
|
02-21-2002, 07:38 PM | #18 |
Elven Warrior
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: KY
Posts: 217
|
Nameless, that's it! You should write the story of Bill's adventures! And since you're the limerick-meister, how about an epic poem in limerick form!
__________________
"They have called me that ever since I said yes to an elder Ent before he had finished his question" -Quickbeam This post property of Entmoot. |
02-21-2002, 08:23 PM | #19 |
Bard of Mangled Songs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila
Posts: 2,679
|
LOL! A five-liner epic.
__________________
Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert Accio, Ash Nazg! Elennuru s?*la lúmenn' omentielvo (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures... |
02-21-2002, 08:37 PM | #20 |
Best Ex-Administrator ever
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Ireland
Posts: 60,547
|
Realism would suggest that Bill just traveled back to Rivendell, with no disruptions (except harsh weather), though I guess its fine if any of you wish to write stories about Bill the Pony fighting Orcs, outrunning wolves and escaping the wrath of mighty and strong Trolls.
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Religion and Individualism | Beren3000 | General Messages | 311 | 04-17-2012 10:07 PM |
marriage | katya | General Messages | 384 | 01-21-2012 12:13 AM |
Abortion. | PippinTook | General Messages | 1004 | 06-18-2008 06:14 PM |
Post-Election Analysis | azalea | General Messages | 364 | 01-08-2005 02:31 PM |
Bill Ferny: Man or Hobbit | Telcontar_Dunedain | Lord of the Rings Books | 102 | 09-02-2004 01:52 PM |