10-18-2002, 05:20 PM | #1 |
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Gondolin
where was Gondolin, what happened, and how come i never seen it talked about? please respond ASAP
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10-18-2002, 05:33 PM | #2 |
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THIS IS THE HOBBIT!!! GONDOLIN IS NOT IN THIS STORY!!!!!!!!!
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10-18-2002, 07:31 PM | #3 |
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But the fabled blades of gondolin are in the hobbit.It was a great elven city in the first age.It was located in beleriand which sunk under the sea at the end of the first age.Turgon the high king of the noldor( High Elves, Gnomes, Deep Elves) ruled there.And he weilded the mighty Glamdring.Elrond is a decendant of him.
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10-18-2002, 10:58 PM | #4 |
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If you want to know more about Gondolin, you'll have to read the Silmarillion. There's a chapter or so about it there.
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10-19-2002, 11:05 AM | #7 |
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so it should Radagast but no need to lose your cool
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10-19-2002, 11:27 AM | #8 |
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I didn't. I accidently pressed Caps Lock.
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10-25-2002, 07:54 PM | #9 | |
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The scene in The Hobbit where Elrond tells Gandalf and Thorin the history of the blades becomes even better after reading in other books that Elrond was himself closely descended from the King of Gondolin (Turgon). One likes to imagine that it was a more touching moment than Bilbo at that time could appreciate when Elrond handed that sword back to Gandalf. |
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11-03-2002, 07:42 PM | #11 |
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Sure. I truly do love the Internet, where misunderstandings are sometimes very easily laid out for all to see, and so cleared up. That seemed to be a classic instance of it.
I hope my remark didn't seem personal or sarcastic, Radagast -- it wasn't meant that way at all. Perhaps I should have included the whole exchange. Sorry! |
11-04-2002, 07:18 AM | #12 |
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you don't have to be sorry. I didn't take it too hard, you know.
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11-04-2002, 10:25 AM | #13 |
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Glad to hear it!
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01-06-2003, 04:21 PM | #14 |
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LOTR
It is not in the hobbit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
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01-06-2003, 09:14 PM | #15 |
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It has a line or two in passing in the Hobbit. Its an ancient city during the first age duriing the Wars of the Jewels (Called Goblin wars in the Hobbit) against Morgoth. It was founded by Turgon, a price of the Noldorin exiles and people with Noldor and Sindar. It was located in a hidden valley cirlcular amists a mass of mountains which had once been a lake bed (It looks lkie and acient cladera) The a a of rocked in the center of the vally on which the city was built. It was likely the highest expresion of Elvish culture ever in Middle Earth. Morgoth captured it nearly 6500 years before the time of the Hobbit.
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01-10-2003, 01:34 PM | #17 | |
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gondolin in the hobbit
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your wrong - gondolin is mentioned several times in the hobbit. all the swords found in the trolls lair were said to be manufactured in gondolin, and two of those swords, as you know, go on to future greatness, and orc-head cleaving.
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But the real question is-since the Hobbit as not set in ME at first publishing, what was Gondolin, aside from a convinient placeholder name of course? Was it really "Gondolin" at first conception?
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