01-10-2003, 06:43 AM | #1 |
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I want to know if Legolas is a Eglath or not, can anybody answer me that question? [COLOR=darkblue]
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01-10-2003, 08:31 AM | #2 |
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His grandfather Oropher was certanly an Eglath. For his father Thranduil I think that he had seen Menegroth also by his owne eyes. But we did know nothing of Legolas mother. So we can only say that on the side of his male ancestors he was an Eglath.
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01-10-2003, 11:37 AM | #3 |
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Moving to the Middle-earth forum
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01-10-2003, 04:33 PM | #4 |
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Hmm? Eglath? Never heard that term; what is it?
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01-10-2003, 05:16 PM | #5 |
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That is a term that many of the Teleri that missed the "boat" to Valinor aplled to themselves, meaning "the Forsaken". Athough to some extant applied to all or most of the Teleri left in Beleriand, it more strongly applied to the Cirdan's people (later called Falathrim) that came to the coast found the island gone, and waited in vain for it to return. They retained this name longer than the Doriathians, of whom Thranduil is numbered. It also appears in the name of Cirdans chief haven, Eglarest, and for some time Beleriand West of the Narog River and Doriath were called Eglador. An older name for the Nenning river also incoporate the word root.
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01-11-2003, 07:15 AM | #6 |
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thanks
Thanks for the Data administrated Findegil, I suspected that Legolas was an Egloth becouse he feels nostalgic when he thinks in the sea and becouse he was from the forest.
What does your nick minds? (The mine is a composition between "Alqua" and "Agarwaen") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gwaimir Windgem: The Egloth was the part of the Teleri that could not go to Valinor, the Umanyar called them (as the Noldor too) Moriquendi (Elves of the darkness). |
01-11-2003, 10:38 AM | #7 |
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Isn't the latent sea-longing common to all Sindarin? "In the hearts of the grey-eleves it slumbered. but once awakened it could not be appeased." Appendix F
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01-12-2003, 08:46 PM | #8 |
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I hve no idea what your talking about is Legolas a what???
I think this thread shud be about Legolas how hot he is.. Quotes he says in the films/books!!! NO OFFENSE OR ANYTHING!!!!
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01-12-2003, 11:53 PM | #9 |
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legolasslvr [edited]
HEY YOU LEGOLASSLVR, IF YOU DO NOT KNOW A **** ABOUT TLOTR, SHUT YOUR **** UP AND DO NOT WRITE OR REPLY ANY [edited] THING, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF RESPECT FOR THE OTHERS, AND DISSAPEAR OF ARDA MOTHER ****ER!!!!
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01-13-2003, 08:34 AM | #10 |
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After Eglath is now more applied to the Falathrim than to the Sindar of Doriath, I am inclined to say Legolas wasn't an Eglath.
To get thinks straith: Oropher was an Elf of Doriath that's sure (see Unfinished Tales). Were his son Tharnduil was born is not known and also we no nothing of his wife, but I think to build the fortress of the Woodelves in northern Mirkwood so much to the liking of Menegroth it needs Tharnduil to be born in Doriath and eyewittness the Thausand Caves. Were and when Legoals was born is also unkwon, as is any information about his mother. Some argue that he must be young to fit the picture in the Lord of the Rings, some say otherwise. But no-one had made him ever old enough that he would be born during a time while any Sindar would be called Eglath. Respectfully Findegil |
01-13-2003, 04:06 PM | #11 |
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Wow. Just because someone is ignorant and unappreciative of middle-earth doesn't mean you should just swear at them. Laugh at them-sure, but no need to swear.
Surprising to see such uncivility in entmoot.
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01-13-2003, 04:36 PM | #12 |
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Alquagarwaen, what was that about? Just because Legolaslvr!'s post was meaningless and idiotic doesn't mean you should scream at her...
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01-13-2003, 07:44 PM | #13 |
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I wonder why Tolkien made Legolas' background so scanty? Is it because Legolas is a relatively minor "did the least of all the fellowship" (a good line for annoying fangirls I must admit) or is it one of those leaving us a mystery situations? It seems strange considering that all the Hobbits get their lineages picked over, Gimli gets a family tree, Aragorn and Boromir get long lineages, Gandalf of course is a seperate issue. So that leaves Legolas as the odd one out.
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01-14-2003, 02:51 AM | #14 |
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Is not the what she knows or not, it is her posture.
For me, every character of the LOTR is so important as Eru. And when someone takes them so "softly" destroy a work so big as LOTR. Yes, is true, I overact a little, but is very irritant to me. If is it so wrong, please let HER speak and do not disturb (no offenses) Respectfully... Alquagarwaen. |
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It is very interesting to read this passage from UT about Oropher and his Sindarin folk settling among the Silvan Elves: Quote:
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01-15-2003, 08:30 PM | #16 |
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I'm sooo sorry Alquagarwaen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just didn't understand the question I haven't even finished the 1'st book yet but ya dont have ta yell at me it hurt's my feelings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: ( I'm very sensitive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-16-2003, 05:49 AM | #17 |
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Hey Alquagarwaen!
Check the profiles before you shoot your dirty little mouth off you little delinquent. Legplasslvr isn't even 12 years old yet. Of course your just a boy yourself, and I'm old enough to be your mother so YOU"R GROUNDED BOY, GET TO YOUR ROOM TILL YOU LEARN TO PLAY NICE!!!
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01-16-2003, 07:43 AM | #18 |
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I'm 12.
12 year olds have Tolkien minds too! On to Legolas: I also find it surprising that the Prince of Mirkwood has so little backround, but I would be surprised if he was an Eglath. I never thought of him as that old.
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At the risk of being flamed, what's the relation between the terms Eglath and Sindar? |
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The Sindar was the name given to those of the Teleri in Beleriand who did not complete the Great Journey, by the Noldorin Exiles. The original Sindar were the Eglath. Later the Laiquendi and the Nandor who entered Beleriand were often counted among the Sindar
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