07-06-2000, 03:12 AM | #1 |
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What happened to Gandalf?
What do you think happened to the wizard afte the "Return of the King"? He left from the Grey havens.
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07-06-2000, 12:54 PM | #2 |
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Re: What happened to Gandalf?
He went back to Valinor, which is where he originally came from.
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07-07-2000, 09:18 PM | #3 |
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Re: What happened to Gandalf?
I am Gandalf
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07-08-2000, 02:32 AM | #4 |
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Tater the Grey... sounds nice...
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07-08-2000, 03:21 AM | #5 |
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Re: What happened to Gandalf?
What about Frodo and Leglos and Gimli after they departed.
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07-08-2000, 01:00 PM | #6 |
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Re: What happened to Gandalf?
They went to the Blessed Realm, too, but would likely have dwelt in Tol Eressea... And the mortal among them would have died eventually.
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07-08-2000, 03:05 PM | #7 |
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Nice place to be when you die, anyway, since the mortals would have had to eventually
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06-20-2001, 08:48 PM | #8 |
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Re: What happened to Gandalf?
where did you hear that gimli left over the sea?
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06-21-2001, 12:12 AM | #9 |
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I am not Eruve, but presumably he read it in the Appendices, I think it is said in the end of Of Durin's Folk, or maybe it is toward the end of the Chronology of Years. Legolas built a ship and they sailed away together in IV 120, when Aragorn died.
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06-21-2001, 05:08 AM | #10 |
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Re: What happened to Gandalf?
What would a Dwarf do in Valinor? Visit Aule?
What about Bilbo and Frodo? What would a Hobbit do? |
06-21-2001, 07:13 AM | #11 |
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Sr1421 Bilbo, Frodo, Sam many elves including Elrond and Galadriel and many other elves. Rode down at last to Mithlond, to the Grey Havens in the long firth of Lune. Then Cirdan led them to the Havens and a white ship waiting upon which was Gandalf and Narya The Great. to take Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf and others sailing west.
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06-22-2001, 03:12 AM | #12 |
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It is speculated by some Fourth Age scholar that Gimli went to see Galadriel, and Galadriel obtained that grace for him. It's important to remember at least initially they went to Eressea, not Valinor.
As for Bilbo and Frodo, they went to rid themselves of the last evil of that terrible Ring, they went for peace. But they were mortals, and eventually (Bilbo a week after he arrived) they would die, and go whither so ever their fëar (spirits) were doomed to go. |
06-22-2001, 09:36 AM | #13 | |
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Re: What happened to Gandalf?
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06-23-2001, 01:48 AM | #14 | |
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I try not to make things up, I might make deductions,
I read Robert Foster (in the Complete Guide to Middle-earth) say he had read it somewhere, and he doesn't make things up, although his book is now outdated and he makes mistakes. Quote:
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06-24-2001, 06:49 PM | #15 |
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My answer of 6/21 is from the appendix of the original book. Gads, does no one have an answer save his name begins with a vowel?
And as for Foster who the h... is he? Did he write LOTR? Did he add the information in the original appendix? He's only guessing like the rest of you; while the answer I provide comes from the creator JRRT. Get it? |
06-24-2001, 11:09 PM | #16 | |
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If your 'who the h... is he' was really meant, I wonder how you could know 'he's only guessing'. Robert Foster for a long time had the greatest reference source book available, (although Foster apparently was and/or is not very valued as a linguist) Christopher Tolkien mentions him and his book in a few of the Volumes of the History of Middle-earth and Unfinished Tales, he had respect for him and found The Complete Guide to be a very good, reliable help for reference. CT said he frequently used it. It wasn't revised since the publication of the Letters, HoME books and Unfinished Tales though, so it's outdated. Robert Foster wasn't guessing, He's not David Day, he doesn't make things up. Which is why I am sure the information can be found in the Appendices. He also had access to a few writings of Tolkien's that were (at least at that time) not yet published. At any rate I don't see how the length of time Bilbo stayed in Aman before his death has anything to do with the information you posted. So I at least do not get it. Care to explain, nicely if possible? |
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