frustrating friends 2

Eärloth · 10-04-2003, 09:36 AM

This is kind of like the other frustrating friends thread (Do YOUR friends frustrate you?), only this one is not related to pronunciation of names:

Does anyone you know ask you the most stupid questions about the ending and details of the story? for example:

"At Helm's Deep, do you reckon the battle would have actually ever started if that old guy hadn't accidentally fired the arrow?"

"Do they get to destroy the Ring?"

Also, one of my friends told me she wanted to learn Elvish just because Legolas is an Elf. I told her he dies in the end

Does this occur with anyone else?

Elvengirl · 10-04-2003, 11:51 AM

After seeing the movie I had someone ask me
What's a hobbit?

And on my comment about their height- Oh, they are short?

Dreran the Green · 10-04-2003, 12:27 PM

I have a friend named Kyle who thought Gandalf was saved from Orthanc because he turned that little moth into a giant moth and flew away on it.

I had to explain to him that it was Gwaihir.

He also thinks that Lotr would be better if everyone had pistols and Gandalf was armed with a machine gun.

Rosie Gamgee · 10-04-2003, 12:36 PM

I have friends who say they have the books at home (but won't read them) and they keep asking me who 'She' (Gollum: She could do it, precious, yes She could do it) is. I told them that 'She' is a giant spider and she kills Frodo

(actually, I kind of hinted to that, to make them nervous

).
People ask me all the time, "Does Frodo die?" I'm like "Are you kidding?? What makes you think I'm gonna tell you?!"
And my mom's always saying things like "Is Aragorn the king? Does he die?"
Eveyone always asks me "Does so-and-so die?" Arg!! What makes them think I'd spoil it!!!??

Elvedans · 10-04-2003, 04:04 PM

My friend who didn't even bother seeing the film spent a whole day asking me stupid questions like Why does Frodo have to take the ring, why not another hobbit? Why can't he just give it to someone else? Duh!

Bridgette · 10-04-2003, 07:17 PM

I agree about "Does so-and-so die?" being a very annoying question. Also "Why are these tree's talking" and "WHAT? Why is the guy-in-purple (aka Boromir) alive again?" (And she was looking at Eomer when she asked that

) are some of the annoying/stupid questiiiins people have asked me. Also, when you are watching the movie for the first time with a bunch of your friends, and through the ENTIRE people are asking "What happens next?", "Who is that?", "Where are they going", "Whats that thing flying around that guys head?". Really annoying, when you are just trying to watch the movie.

Black Breathalizer · 10-04-2003, 07:42 PM

I've heard a number of incredibly stupid and annoying questions since the films have come out. You'd think people would actually THINK once in a while before making such fools of themselves.

Here's my top ten list of dumb questions:

10. Why didn't Peter Jackson make Bree a happy and nice place rather than one that was dark and frightening?

9. Why didn't Aragorn carry around his broken sword?

8. Why didn't Jackson give us Tom Bombadil and Goldberry?

7. Why wasn't Gandalf the Grey in FOTR more decisive and a real leader like he was in Gondor in the books?

6. Why was Gimli and Pippin used for comic relief?

5. Why did Gandalf and the troops arrive at Helm's Deep from the West like the books rather than the East?

4. Why didn't a mortally wounded little Frodo ride to the fords on that big white horse all by himself like in the books?

3. Do you think, like I do, that Sam was overloving towards Frodo?

2. Why wasn't Faramir acting nicer and why didn't he let Frodo go earlier instead of taking him to Osiligath?

1. Why did the movies show all that fighting in Moria, Amon Hen, and Helm's Deep?

Elvengirl · 10-04-2003, 08:04 PM

Actually #s 2,4,6,8 aren't that dumb. They should have been more like the book.

Eärloth · 10-05-2003, 12:30 AM

I was talking to a girl on msn the other day who hadn't read LotR: the conversation was actually quite comical:

Her: Does Frodo destroy the Ring?
Me: [thinking] <well actually, technically, he doesn't, soooo...> No.
Her: Omg what happens?
Me: Gollum gets it.
Her: Wow. That I did not see. What, does he kill them?
Me: Well you know how Elves go to Valinor when they die? Frodo and Sam both physically leave Middle-earth and go to Valinor.
Her: Okay this is really important to me because he's my favourite character: does Legolas die?
Me: Well I'll just say this: Legolas goes to Valinor as well.
Her: Noooooooooooo
Me: Gimli follows him.
Her: NOOOOoooooooo. What happens to Aragorn?
Me: He dies [thinks] <eventually>. He kills himself [thinks again] <kinda...>.
Her: Omg what does Arwen do then?
Me: She dies too.
Her: Oooooohhh

.
Me: And Merry gets a grave next to Éomer's and Pippin gets crushed by a troll. [thinking] Merry: that's not even in the story, just in the appendices. Pippin: it doesn't necessarily kill him, but he does!!!
Her: So all the main characters die. That's a bit off.

Muahahahaha!!!!

Black Breathalizer · 10-05-2003, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elvengirl
Actually #s 2,4,6,8 aren't that dumb. They should have been more like the book.

I'm sure the people asking the other questions listed here on this thread thought their inquiries weren't dumb either.

Elvengirl · 10-05-2003, 09:37 AM

of course

Elvedans · 10-05-2003, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eärloth
I was talking to a girl on msn the other day who hadn't read LotR: the conversation was actually quite comical:

Her: Does Frodo destroy the Ring?
Me: [thinking] <well actually, technically, he doesn't, soooo...> No.
Her: Omg what happens?
Me: Gollum gets it.
Her: Wow. That I did not see. What, does he kill them?
Me: Well you know how Elves go to Valinor when they die? Frodo and Sam both physically leave Middle-earth and go to Valinor.
Her: Okay this is really important to me because he's my favourite character: does Legolas die?
Me: Well I'll just say this: Legolas goes to Valinor as well.
Her: Noooooooooooo
Me: Gimli follows him.
Her: NOOOOoooooooo. What happens to Aragorn?
Me: He dies [thinks] <eventually>. He kills himself [thinks again] <kinda...>.
Her: Omg what does Arwen do then?
Me: She dies too.
Her: Oooooohhh.
Me: And Merry gets a grave next to Éomer's and Pippin gets crushed by a troll. [thinking] Merry: that's not even in the story, just in the appendices. Pippin: it doesn't necessarily kill him, but he does!!!
Her: So all the main characters die. That's a bit off.

Muahahahaha!!!!

Brilliant, I LOVE it!!! I have to try that one! Ha ha ha!!

***IronParrot*** · 10-06-2003, 01:51 AM

I think the worst question that I consistently hear is: why is Frodo hero of the story when he's so weak?

(Somewhere, a point is missed.)

eowyngirl14 · 10-06-2003, 02:44 PM

one of the most annoying questions that my twin always asks me is why is Sam so mean to Gollum? he [Gollum] is soooooo sweat, he wouldnt hurt a fly!

another anoying thing is that my little sister always asks me why im evil and mean even when im not wearing my one ring.

some people will just never understand...

jerseydevil · 10-23-2003, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronParrot
I think the worst question that I consistently hear is: why is Frodo hero of the story when he's so weak?

(Somewhere, a point is missed.)

I've had that repeatedly by the people who have not read the book. Proving the point that Jackson screwed up on too much of the characterization. If he had Frodo defy the Blackriders in the Flight to the Ford - then there would be far less questioning of Frodo's strength.

BB - those aren't stupid questions. Most of those things were at the heart of the story or just junk that Jackson put in to make his little action movie.

Elfhelm · 10-23-2003, 07:27 PM

All of my friends are avid readers, so it doesn't happen to me.

I had a co-worker ask me last year how the heck Gandalf survived. I just laughed and reminded him of the scene where he says to Bilbo "Do not take me for a conjuror of cheap tricks." When he wanted to know more I went into a brief explanation of the Istari. Within the week he bought the books and got down to reading them! Yay!

Ruinel · 10-25-2003, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eärloth
I was talking to a girl on msn the other day who hadn't read LotR: the conversation was actually quite comical:
....
Muahahahaha!!!!

Damn, you ARE evil!

I like that!

>> Personally, I don't mind people asking me dumb questions about LotR, or The Sil or UT or anything else about JRRT's masterpieces. IMO, I'm an ambassador of Tolkien

... and I will assimilate them. MWHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!

Unfortunately, my roommate refuses to read the books. She prefers murder mysteries instead, and sticks very closely to that genre.

That is my current goal in life, to get her to read the books. Luckily, she isn't interested in seeing the movies either. (*phew*) So, she won't be given erroneous information through PJ's little fiasco either.

Quote:

Originally posted by JerseyDevil
...If he had Frodo defy the Blackriders in the Flight to the Ford - then there would be far less questioning of Frodo's strength....

I agree. Frodo's Flight to the Ford was an important part of the story. It showed how strong a Hobbit he was, and I was in awe of him from the first time I read that. There he was, small of stature, suffering under the "deadly wound that will subdue (Frodo) to their will," but STILL defying the most wicked, frightening band of wraiths ever to wear a cursed ring.

Quote:

...With a great effort Frodo sat upright and brandished his sword.

"Go back!" he cried. "Go back to the Land of Mordor, and follow me no more!"....

They laugh at him and say...

Quote:

"Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you!"

and with one last effort Frodo musters all he can and says...

Quote:

"By Elbereth and Luthien the Fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me!"

It still puts chills up my spine.

I was so disappointed that this part was left out of the movie. PJ made Frodo such a damn [EDITED]*.

*[2nd EDIT BY ME]: word meaning someone with "NO BALLS".

Elvengirl · 10-25-2003, 08:47 PM

*shivers* me too

Arwen's "warrior princess" debut was... well...*laugh*
But I don't think Elijah would have done the scene justice, better to read the book. It's always worth another read.

Sorry to go off topic, I don't have any frustrating friends

Goldberry1 · 10-25-2003, 09:28 PM

after FOTR came out, i remember some guy i went to school with at the time asking why it ended like it did and complaining that the ending was stupid... then i told him that it was the first movie in a trilogy.

needless to say that was the end of that conversation...

Selwythe · 10-29-2003, 03:28 AM

Oh yes, I really enjoyed the "huh?"'s and "what the?"'s coming from all over the crowd at the end of FotR when I watched it.

And tip: here's a way to ensure you don't have any frustrating friends. A long time ago, I corrupted all my friends into reading LotR and hence, I don't have any frustrating friends or dumb questions to answer. As it is, my friends usually ask each other the dumb questions anyway.

"How did Gandalf live again?"

"I don't know. I think it's because he's God or God's servant or something."

"Why?'

"You know how he says he's servant of the secret fire of Anor or something? Anor must be God or Heaven or something up there."

"So he's, like, the messiah?"

"Yeah, I think so."

"Whoa."

"Yeah."

10-04-2003, 09:36 AM	#1
Eärloth Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EsCaPiNg FrOm tHiS HeLL iNtO My NiGHtMaReS Posts: 312	frustrating friends 2 This is kind of like the other frustrating friends thread (Do YOUR friends frustrate you?), only this one is not related to pronunciation of names: Does anyone you know ask you the most stupid questions about the ending and details of the story? for example: "At Helm's Deep, do you reckon the battle would have actually ever started if that old guy hadn't accidentally fired the arrow?" "Do they get to destroy the Ring?" Also, one of my friends told me she wanted to learn Elvish just because Legolas is an Elf. I told her he dies in the end Does this occur with anyone else? __________________ Lothên will be found! Telperinai pennar niei rossenen, iéni únótimai be m?ri Aiaro! Man erca óre nio ettuccuba? S? mapuba Ulmo ciria ma be findi-falla; Baradis mentuba i Elestel i en tulia me Annúne pella, nimpei srestanai or helle cúna, helle rácina. Nan merin minia lóte elanar an sire cenin Ennor tellabe. Namárie! Autame Balinórena, Ennórelo autai! Namárie!

10-04-2003, 11:51 AM	#2
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	After seeing the movie I had someone ask me What's a hobbit? And on my comment about their height- Oh, they are short? __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

10-04-2003, 12:27 PM	#3
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	I have a friend named Kyle who thought Gandalf was saved from Orthanc because he turned that little moth into a giant moth and flew away on it. I had to explain to him that it was Gwaihir. He also thinks that Lotr would be better if everyone had pistols and Gandalf was armed with a machine gun. __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

10-04-2003, 12:36 PM	#4
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	I have friends who say they have the books at home (but won't read them) and they keep asking me who 'She' (Gollum: She could do it, precious, yes She could do it) is. I told them that 'She' is a giant spider and she kills Frodo (actually, I kind of hinted to that, to make them nervous ). People ask me all the time, "Does Frodo die?" I'm like "Are you kidding?? What makes you think I'm gonna tell you?!" And my mom's always saying things like "Is Aragorn the king? Does he die?" Eveyone always asks me "Does so-and-so die?" Arg!! What makes them think I'd spoil it!!!?? __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

10-04-2003, 04:04 PM	#5
Elvedans Diamond Of The Night Sky Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Old London Town (Well somewhere near there) Posts: 366	My friend who didn't even bother seeing the film spent a whole day asking me stupid questions like Why does Frodo have to take the ring, why not another hobbit? Why can't he just give it to someone else? Duh! __________________ I see a little silhouetto of a man. Scaramouche scaramouche will you do the fandango? Thunderbolts and Lightning, very very frightening me!

10-04-2003, 07:17 PM	#6
Bridgette Enting Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada! Posts: 70	I agree about "Does so-and-so die?" being a very annoying question. Also "Why are these tree's talking" and "WHAT? Why is the guy-in-purple (aka Boromir) alive again?" (And she was looking at Eomer when she asked that ) are some of the annoying/stupid questiiiins people have asked me. Also, when you are watching the movie for the first time with a bunch of your friends, and through the ENTIRE people are asking "What happens next?", "Who is that?", "Where are they going", "Whats that thing flying around that guys head?". Really annoying, when you are just trying to watch the movie. __________________ Used to be known as Lady of Rohan

10-04-2003, 07:42 PM	#7
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	I've heard a number of incredibly stupid and annoying questions since the films have come out. You'd think people would actually THINK once in a while before making such fools of themselves. Here's my top ten list of dumb questions: 10. Why didn't Peter Jackson make Bree a happy and nice place rather than one that was dark and frightening? 9. Why didn't Aragorn carry around his broken sword? 8. Why didn't Jackson give us Tom Bombadil and Goldberry? 7. Why wasn't Gandalf the Grey in FOTR more decisive and a real leader like he was in Gondor in the books? 6. Why was Gimli and Pippin used for comic relief? 5. Why did Gandalf and the troops arrive at Helm's Deep from the West like the books rather than the East? 4. Why didn't a mortally wounded little Frodo ride to the fords on that big white horse all by himself like in the books? 3. Do you think, like I do, that Sam was overloving towards Frodo? 2. Why wasn't Faramir acting nicer and why didn't he let Frodo go earlier instead of taking him to Osiligath? 1. Why did the movies show all that fighting in Moria, Amon Hen, and Helm's Deep?

10-04-2003, 08:04 PM	#8
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	Actually #s 2,4,6,8 aren't that dumb. They should have been more like the book. __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

10-05-2003, 12:30 AM	#9
Eärloth Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: EsCaPiNg FrOm tHiS HeLL iNtO My NiGHtMaReS Posts: 312	I was talking to a girl on msn the other day who hadn't read LotR: the conversation was actually quite comical: Her: Does Frodo destroy the Ring? Me: [thinking] <well actually, technically, he doesn't, soooo...> No. Her: Omg what happens? Me: Gollum gets it. Her: Wow. That I did not see. What, does he kill them? Me: Well you know how Elves go to Valinor when they die? Frodo and Sam both physically leave Middle-earth and go to Valinor. Her: Okay this is really important to me because he's my favourite character: does Legolas die? Me: Well I'll just say this: Legolas goes to Valinor as well. Her: Noooooooooooo Me: Gimli follows him. Her: NOOOOoooooooo. What happens to Aragorn? Me: He dies [thinks] <eventually>. He kills himself [thinks again] <kinda...>. Her: Omg what does Arwen do then? Me: She dies too. Her: Oooooohhh. Me: And Merry gets a grave next to Éomer's and Pippin gets crushed by a troll. [thinking] Merry: that's not even in the story, just in the appendices. Pippin: it doesn't necessarily kill him, but he does!!! Her: So all the main characters die. That's a bit off. Muahahahaha!!!! __________________ Lothên will be found! Telperinai pennar niei rossenen, iéni únótimai be m?ri Aiaro! Man erca óre nio ettuccuba? S? mapuba Ulmo ciria ma be findi-falla; Baradis mentuba i Elestel i en tulia me Annúne pella, nimpei srestanai or helle cúna, helle rácina. Nan merin minia lóte elanar an sire cenin Ennor tellabe. Namárie! Autame Balinórena, Ennórelo autai! Namárie!

10-05-2003, 09:37 AM	#11
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	of course __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

10-06-2003, 01:51 AM	#13
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	I think the worst question that I consistently hear is: why is Frodo hero of the story when he's so weak? (Somewhere, a point is missed.) __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

10-06-2003, 02:44 PM	#14
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	one of the most annoying questions that my twin always asks me is why is Sam so mean to Gollum? he [Gollum] is soooooo sweat, he wouldnt hurt a fly! another anoying thing is that my little sister always asks me why im evil and mean even when im not wearing my one ring. some people will just never understand... __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

10-23-2003, 07:27 PM	#16
Elfhelm Marshal of the Eastmark Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,412	All of my friends are avid readers, so it doesn't happen to me. I had a co-worker ask me last year how the heck Gandalf survived. I just laughed and reminded him of the scene where he says to Bilbo "Do not take me for a conjuror of cheap tricks." When he wanted to know more I went into a brief explanation of the Istari. Within the week he bought the books and got down to reading them! Yay! __________________ cya

10-25-2003, 08:47 PM	#18
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	shivers me too Arwen's "warrior princess" debut was... well...laugh But I don't think Elijah would have done the scene justice, better to read the book. It's always worth another read. Sorry to go off topic, I don't have any frustrating friends __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

10-25-2003, 09:28 PM	#19
Goldberry1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DC or Delaware, depending on the time of year Posts: 244	after FOTR came out, i remember some guy i went to school with at the time asking why it ended like it did and complaining that the ending was stupid... then i told him that it was the first movie in a trilogy. needless to say that was the end of that conversation... __________________ Oh, your collegiate grief has left you dowdy in sweatshirts, absolute horror!

10-29-2003, 03:28 AM	#20
Selwythe Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 221	Oh yes, I really enjoyed the "huh?"'s and "what the?"'s coming from all over the crowd at the end of FotR when I watched it. And tip: here's a way to ensure you don't have any frustrating friends. A long time ago, I corrupted all my friends into reading LotR and hence, I don't have any frustrating friends or dumb questions to answer. As it is, my friends usually ask each other the dumb questions anyway. "How did Gandalf live again?" "I don't know. I think it's because he's God or God's servant or something." "Why?' "You know how he says he's servant of the secret fire of Anor or something? Anor must be God or Heaven or something up there." "So he's, like, the messiah?" "Yeah, I think so." "Whoa." "Yeah." __________________ If I say you have a beautiful body, will you hold it against me?

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