Did Rowling know this?

Blackboar · 12-26-2002, 05:04 AM

A quote from my new encyclopedia on LotR that I got for christmas!!

Quote:

Dumbledors- In the playful Hobbit poem "Errantry" a part tells of a ferocious race of winged insects. They are named Dumbledors but nothing more is told of their origin and history.

Do you think she knew this?

shirefarmer · 12-26-2002, 01:26 PM

wow that just proves how stupid harry potter is

Falagar · 12-26-2002, 01:28 PM

No. I think she hadn't even read LotR before she wrote HP (only the Hobbit).

Elf Girl · 12-26-2002, 01:50 PM

She said she named him Dumbledore cuz it's Latin for "bumblebee". Just proves they both like Latin.

Blackboar · 12-26-2002, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falagar
No. I think she hadn't even read LotR before she wrote HP (only the Hobbit).

I think she did!!

Radagast The Brown · 12-26-2002, 04:50 PM

ok - but still, if she did, you cannot do anything. (and i think she didn't. I like both of the books, LOTR and HP)

BeardofPants · 12-26-2002, 05:00 PM

Dumbledor is old english for bumble bee. She is not copying Tolkien. Sheesh.

dumbledor

\Dum"ble*dor`\, n. [The first part is prob. of imitative origin. See Dor a beetle.] (Zo["o]l.) A bumblebee; also, a cockchafer. [Prov. Eng.]

BeardofPants · 12-26-2002, 05:02 PM

Oh, and there's already a thread somewhere which discussed the etymology of Dumbledor. Use that search function sometime, huh?

Ñólendil · 12-26-2002, 05:11 PM

"Dumbledore" is a name J. K. Rowling said she felt she knew, but couldn't remember where she had heard it, until a friend reminded her that they had walked in some sort of flower garden as children (my memory is hazy), and the flowers were called dumbledores.

BeardofPants · 12-26-2002, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Oh, and there's already a thread somewhere which discussed the etymology of Dumbledor. Use that search function sometime, huh?

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...885#post135885

Coney · 12-26-2002, 05:29 PM

I remember making this same mistake on the Dumbledore name

I'm also very relieved to discover that a cockchafer is a beetle

*washes his dirty mind with carbolic soap*

samwise of the shire · 12-27-2002, 05:58 PM

Ummm I think that Tolkiens Dumbledors are bees. "A ferocious race of winged insects"...yep sounds like a bee alright.

12-26-2002, 01:26 PM	#2
shirefarmer Sapling Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ohio Posts: 12	rowling wow that just proves how stupid harry potter is

12-26-2002, 01:28 PM	#3
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	No. I think she hadn't even read LotR before she wrote HP (only the Hobbit). __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

12-26-2002, 01:50 PM	#4
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	She said she named him Dumbledore cuz it's Latin for "bumblebee". Just proves they both like Latin. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

12-26-2002, 04:50 PM	#6
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	ok - but still, if she did, you cannot do anything. (and i think she didn't. I like both of the books, LOTR and HP) __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

12-26-2002, 05:00 PM	#7
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Dumbledor is old english for bumble bee. She is not copying Tolkien. Sheesh. dumbledor \Dum"bledor`\, n. [The first part is prob. of imitative origin. See Dor a beetle.] (Zo["o]l.) A bumblebee; also, a cockchafer. [Prov. Eng.] __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 12-26-2002 at 05:02 PM.*

12-26-2002, 05:02 PM	#8
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Oh, and there's already a thread somewhere which discussed the etymology of Dumbledor. Use that search function sometime, huh? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

12-26-2002, 05:11 PM	#9
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	"Dumbledore" is a name J. K. Rowling said she felt she knew, but couldn't remember where she had heard it, until a friend reminded her that they had walked in some sort of flower garden as children (my memory is hazy), and the flowers were called dumbledores. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

12-26-2002, 05:29 PM	#11
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	I remember making this same mistake on the Dumbledore name I'm also very relieved to discover that a cockchafer is a beetle washes his dirty mind with carbolic soap __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

12-27-2002, 05:58 PM	#12
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Re: Did Rowling know this? Ummm I think that Tolkiens Dumbledors are bees. "A ferocious race of winged insects"...yep sounds like a bee alright. __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

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