Pope candidates

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-30-2006, 08:45 PM

While I doubt many people would be like, "Ye gods, a woman running for president. How scandalous", I do think most people be either less or more inclined to vote for a woman than for a man. Less because of a (in most cases) gut reaction against it, or more because of a desire to seem open-minded and inclusive, which I think was a lot of the impetus behind the faction that supported Arinze as the successor to the Holy Father. Don't get me wrong, he's a great man, and he would be I think the second best after Pope Benedict, but people had a tendency to play up the black factor too much.

hectorberlioz · 08-30-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

While I doubt many people would be like, "Ye gods, a woman running for president. How scandalous", I do think most people be either less or more inclined to vote for a woman than for a man. Less because of a (in most cases) gut reaction against it, or more because of a desire to seem open-minded and inclusive, which I think was a lot of the impetus behind the faction that supported Arinze as the successor to the Holy Father. Don't get me wrong, he's a great man, and he would be I think the second best after Pope Benedict, but people had a tendency to play up the black factor too much.

Yes, and I agree about Arinze. That was a big question of my dad's, Arinze black, or Benedict long-timer? It wouldn't be a bad thing if he was the next pope...

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-30-2006, 09:04 PM

I've got my fingers crossed.

hectorberlioz · 08-30-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

I've got my fingers crossed.

Really? No other candidate in your mind?

...btw, what about during the previous conclave?

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-31-2006, 07:00 PM

Bertgoglio or Castrillo would be good; I also like Schonborn, even if he is a heretic.

Last election, I favoured Arinze, largely because he was the one I knew the most about.

hectorberlioz · 08-31-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Bertgoglio or Castrillo would be good; I also like Schonborn, even if he is a heretic.

Last election, I favoured Arinze, largely because he was the one I knew the most about.

Aha...Benedict reluctee, eh?

(notice, reluctee is not a real word...to my knowledge. But once again, my genius for new words...)

I knew about Arinze and Ratzinger the most...they were the names that came up the most.

Insidious Rex · 09-01-2006, 01:14 PM

Its good to know people actually talk about pope candidates as if they are soccer teams or something.

Spock · 09-01-2006, 01:47 PM

Just buy generic 'pope on a rope" soap and you'll do fine. It's recommended by Father Guido Sarduci.

**Nurvingiel** · 09-01-2006, 02:02 PM

Ahaha, awesome!

I kind of feel bad for Benedict, since he has to follow Pope John Paul. What a hard act to follow eh? John Paul was the best pope ever.

I have to laugh at how far we are from the topic though. What does a woman candidate for the American presidency have in common with a male religious leader who's elected by a select group of white men?

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-01-2006, 03:16 PM

Predominantly white, perhaps, but far from exclusively.

**Nurvingiel** · 09-01-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Predominantly white, perhaps, but far from exclusively.

Why not exclusively? Only the cardinals vote for the Pope, and there's only 90 (or something) of them.

Arien the Maia · 09-02-2006, 02:10 PM

you know, I still have a hard time adjusting to the fac tthat Benedict is the Pope and not John Paul II...for the longest time during mass, when the priest prays for the Pope and he says Benedict, I jept thinking...no you're wrong; it's john Paul!

but aside from that I think that Arinze is a great choice. He seems like he would be really into helping the countries of Africa out.

hectorberlioz · 09-02-2006, 03:34 PM

At first it was kinda strange, but now I can't think of it any other way...

May as well hold a poll here, no?

Gwai, I'm supoosin' you will be voting for Arinze, so I guess that makes two.

Another question: How long will Benedict last? He's a pretty old guy already...on the other hand, he's a hardly german, isnt he?

EDIT: I meant HARDY, Gwai

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-02-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

Why not exclusively? Only the cardinals vote for the Pope, and there's only 90 (or something) of them.

Because they are a number of black and Asian cardinals. See?

But anyway, only cardinals who have not turned 80 vote for il papa, and there are app. 120 of those now.

hectorberlioz · 09-02-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Because they are a number of black and Asian cardinals. See?

You mean THERE are a number...

And btw, even Lebanon! That's pretty good.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-02-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

While I doubt many people would be like, "Ye gods, a woman running for president. How scandalous", I do think most people be either less or more inclined to vote for a woman than for a man. Less because of a (in most cases) gut reaction against it, or more because of a desire to seem open-minded and inclusive, which I think was a lot of the impetus behind the faction that supported Arinze as the successor to the Holy Father. Don't get me wrong, he's a great man, and he would be I think the second best after Pope Benedict, but people had a tendency to play up the black factor too much.

I would like to protest. I did not have the hubris to start a thread on "Pope Candidates", despite whatever slander Earniel might spread about me.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-02-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

At first it was kinda strange, but now I can't think of it any other way...

May as well hold a poll here, no?

Gwai, I'm supoosin' you will be voting for Arinze, so I guess that makes two.

Another question: How long will Benedict last? He's a pretty old guy already...on the other hand, he's a hardly german, isnt he?

EDIT: I meant HARDY, Gwai

I'm hoping HH Pope Benedict holds out long enough that Arinze will be too old by the time his turn rolls around; therefore, I vote for me.

hectorberlioz · 09-02-2006, 05:00 PM

Me Metropolitan VS. You Pope ...

How will it end?

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-03-2006, 10:33 PM

Need you ask? Obviously, the Pope has more super-powers than the Metropolitan.

Mercutio · 09-03-2006, 11:43 PM

08-30-2006, 08:45 PM	#1
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	While I doubt many people would be like, "Ye gods, a woman running for president. How scandalous", I do think most people be either less or more inclined to vote for a woman than for a man. Less because of a (in most cases) gut reaction against it, or more because of a desire to seem open-minded and inclusive, which I think was a lot of the impetus behind the faction that supported Arinze as the successor to the Holy Father. Don't get me wrong, he's a great man, and he would be I think the second best after Pope Benedict, but people had a tendency to play up the black factor too much. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

08-30-2006, 09:04 PM	#3
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I've got my fingers crossed. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

08-31-2006, 07:00 PM	#5
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Bertgoglio or Castrillo would be good; I also like Schonborn, even if he is a heretic. Last election, I favoured Arinze, largely because he was the one I knew the most about. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

09-01-2006, 01:14 PM	#7
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Its good to know people actually talk about pope candidates as if they are soccer teams or something. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

09-01-2006, 01:47 PM	#8
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Just buy generic 'pope on a rope" soap and you'll do fine. It's recommended by Father Guido Sarduci. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

09-01-2006, 03:16 PM	#10
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Predominantly white, perhaps, but far from exclusively. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

09-02-2006, 02:10 PM	#12
Arien the Maia Fëanáro's Fire Mistress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 1,423	you know, I still have a hard time adjusting to the fac tthat Benedict is the Pope and not John Paul II...for the longest time during mass, when the priest prays for the Pope and he says Benedict, I jept thinking...no you're wrong; it's john Paul! but aside from that I think that Arinze is a great choice. He seems like he would be really into helping the countries of Africa out.

09-02-2006, 03:34 PM	#13
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	At first it was kinda strange, but now I can't think of it any other way... May as well hold a poll here, no? Gwai, I'm supoosin' you will be voting for Arinze, so I guess that makes two. Another question: How long will Benedict last? He's a pretty old guy already...on the other hand, he's a hardly german, isnt he? EDIT: I meant HARDY, Gwai __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide Last edited by hectorberlioz : 09-02-2006 at 04:23 PM.

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hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Me Metropolitan VS. You Pope ... How will it end? __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

09-03-2006, 10:33 PM	#19
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Need you ask? Obviously, the Pope has more super-powers than the Metropolitan. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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