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It's that old
Check out this Old English poem and see if you guess what it has become today. The answer is at the bottom
Incipit gestis Rudolphi rangifer tarandus Hwæt, Hrodulf readnosa hrandeor -- Næfde þæt nieten unsciende næsðyrlas! Glitenode and gladode godlice nosgrisele. Ða hofberendas mid huscwordum hine gehefigodon; Nolden þa geneatas Hrodulf næftig To gomene hraniscum geador ætsomne. Þa in Cristesmæsseæfne stormigum clommum, Halga Claus þæt gemunde to him maðelode: "Neahfreond nihteage nosubeorhtende! Min hroden hrædwæn gelæd ðu, Hrodulf!" Ða gelufodon hira laddeor þa lyftflogan -- Wæs glædnes and gliwdream; hornede sum gegieddode "Hwæt, Hrodulf readnosa hrandeor, Brad springð þin blæd: breme eart þu!" Hrodulf the Red-Nosed Reindeer (Modern English translation) Here begins the deeds of Rudolph, Tundra-Wanderer Lo, Hrodulf the red-nosed reindeer -- That beast didn't have unshiny nostrils! The goodly nose-cartilage glittered and glowed. The hoof-bearers taunted him with proud words; The comrades wouldn't allow wretched Hrodulf To join the reindeer games. Then, on Christmas Eve bound in storms Santa Claus remembered that, spoke formally to him: "Dear night-sighted friend, nose-bright one! You, Hrodulf, shall lead my adorned rapid-wagon!" Then the sky-flyers praised their lead-deer -- There was gladness and music; one of the horned ones sang "Lo, Hrodulf the red-nosed reindeer, Your fame spreads broadly, you are renowned!" and as we know it today Rudolf the Red-nosed Reindeer Rudolf, the red-nosed reindeer had a very shiny nose. And if you ever saw him, you would even say it glows. All of the other reindeer used to laugh and call him names. They never let poor Rudolf play in any reindeer games. Then one foggy Christmas eve Santa came to say: "Rudolf with your nose so bright, won't you guide my sleigh tonight?" Then all the reindeer loved him as they shouted out with glee: "Rudolf the red-nosed reindeer, you'll go down in history!"
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About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. |
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Re: It's that old
Whoah. Flashback.
First grade, little green tights... a dark crimson and forest-green day with bells and sugar cookies in the life of this Elf Lord. Luckily, I don't think any pictures exist of the incident. You didn't read this post.
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Besides that, it is interesting... did you get it at first, afro-elf? I didn't, and I feel like banging my head on the keyboard after missing "Rudolphi" and other giveaways.
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i agree, that IS old!
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I got it, but I think that's a (rather good) hoax. According to various sources, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was written in 1949 by Johnny Marks. Someone sure took a lot of time to figure all that out in Old English.
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Happy Hagla Claus Day! Hwaet!
Not sure but it looks more like pidgin OE.
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The SONG that we sing is from 49 but the tale is older
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So where are your sources then, A-E? I'm rather doubtful myself.
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Yeah, let's see some proof that the story's that old...I personally doubt it but, hey...
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um wow
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Cute....
Unfortunately, my head is full of useless information. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was written in the 20th century as a department store advertisement, I think.
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A couple of interesting sites from a quick search:
http://clemsonews.clemson.edu/WWW_re..._Folklore.html http://www.christmaspast.info/storie...ry/rudolf.html And by "interesting", I mean freakin' weird... where do they get the time for this? Then again, where do I get the time for this?
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Recant
It was an Old English translation similar to the Latin for All occasions
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It's not real? Well, I still like the line
"You, Hrodulf, shall lead my adorned rapid-wagon!"
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Yeah, someone just translated it into O.E.
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I got it from the Old English title - "Incipit gestis Rudolphi rangifer tarandus"
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Re: It's that old
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I guess he was around at that time - there are so many Saint Nicholas' in the Catholic Church - Saint Nicholas, Bishop of Myra. He was around in 280AD. It's still way before the north pole, gift giving and all that got associated with his name though. The gift giving is associated with this saint - Saint Nicholas, Gift-Bearer to Europeans Quote:
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