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11-14-2003, 02:29 PM | #1 |
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Wheel of Time - is it finished or is it finished?
Since I've recently bought the tenth book an answer to the above question would be appreciated.
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11-14-2003, 03:24 PM | #2 |
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I'm on the fifth book, awesome series. Some long passing chapters and characters ( all the women) are boring though.
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11-19-2003, 02:10 AM | #3 |
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I'm also on the fifth book. I've read that there will be several more books. I can't remember exactly how many, but I think that it will be 13 in all. I've also read that he will be writing prequels which take place before book one.
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11-19-2003, 04:36 PM | #4 |
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i'll try to avoid spoilers, but overall...
i was very dissapointed by the latest installment... the first seven were great, but the last three have started to feel like a long-running soap opera (lots of character, little plot)... in the latest many new characters are introduced... very little of any of the ongoing loose-ends are even touched upon, and frankly, the story goes practically nowhere... there are some interesting scenes for true fans and i still find Jordan enjoyable to read... but go into it with low expectations if you don't want to be disappointed i've made a promise to myself that i won't buy another of his books till it's done (which is currently known to be at least two more)... though i probably won't live up to it |
11-23-2003, 03:51 PM | #5 |
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You know, fans tend to disagree a lot upon where "The Wheel of Time" lost its flare, or even if it has. I guess it depends a lot on taste.
I'm just really looking forward to the major climaxes. They'll be coming somewhere in the future, and they will be awesome when they do. Robert Jordan always was a great writer of action scenes. There is a huge amount of potential. If there are only two or three books left to the series, then I'm really looking forward to the future ones. They should contain quite a lot. |
11-24-2003, 03:18 PM | #6 |
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i have to agree that i am still looking forward to the future of the series... it still ranks close to the top on my list of favorites
i just feel that in the last 3-4 books jordan could have shaved about 500 or so pages and not really effected the story or atmosphere much at all (eventhough there are also many excellent parts to the more recent books)... i don't feel the same about the first seven i also loved the sense of mystery and intertwined possibilities earlier in the series... there seems to be less of that lately, and many longstanding enigmas have not even been touched upon in quite a long time... i have a fear that they either will never be really be answered, or they'll be quickly wrapped-up in some left-field sort of way (i.e. it was character X who you never met before that was behind it all) hope i'm wrong |
11-26-2003, 08:10 PM | #7 | |
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11-26-2003, 08:33 PM | #8 |
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he's mixed on the fight scene thing too... don't know where you are so i won't give too much detail, but there is a series of chapters dealing with Perrin's defense of a town that i think is some of the best stuff he's written
on the other hand... there are times when he falls into the "okay let's talk about everthing that leads up to a battle, and then jump to the character reflecting on things after it's over" which has always bugged me... i've always been a fan of experiencing to whole thing as it unfolds |
12-02-2003, 04:53 AM | #9 | ||||||
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Strengths and weaknesses in TWoT
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Other aspects of Robert Jordan's writing I do have trouble with. The women for example, and even the men, to some extent. Quote:
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But Robert Jordan has created quite a lot of enemies, most of whom haven't been dealt with. I really, really hope there are just three more books. Two seems like it would be too short to wrap up everything that quickly. Three books might work. So I'm really hoping he makes it three books, and cramps them with fascinating events. It's the events that I really care about, in terms of enjoying reading the books. There are a lot of great things Robert Jordan has done, in his books. He's got a very good overall plot, a very imaginative world, incredible description and skill at developing different kinds of cultures. He has wonderful action scenes and very deep history for his world. The writing style is compelling. The problems I have with the book are really all involving the characters.
However, despite the character problems, I really enjoy the book series . Again, I'm just really looking forward to the glorious conclusion! |
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12-05-2003, 02:18 PM | #10 |
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Jordan said there were two more to go....but he also said, a long time ago, Wheel of Time would be a trilogy.
I think the best thing he could do would be to stick to that. If there are only two left, they'll have to be action packed, and maybe then will return to the original quality. Katie |
12-06-2003, 10:04 PM | #11 | |
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I don't quite get how he made that mistake, if he had already finished Book 1. His having thought that at an earlier point seems quite conceivable to me, though. The book that I'm writing was just intended to be the prequel to a couple books I'd already written. I decided to skip out those two books later on because they didn't measure up to the prequel, and the prequel is approaching a thousand pages now. |
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12-07-2003, 07:11 AM | #12 |
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that is cool could you send out a couple of books when/if you get published to vegas markets
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12-09-2003, 05:02 PM | #13 | |
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New Spring comes out next year and is prequel to the series and take places around the time of the Dragon.
His last few books have contained lots of waffling but i have enjoyed the scenes with Matt and Tuon. I'm wondering how on earth he's going to wrap up the series in 2 more books i think that's why he's jumped to the prequels.
Overall i think he's a very good writer and he's one of my fav authors at the moment
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01-07-2004, 01:13 AM | #14 |
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I enjoy the series, but RJ has definitely milked it for every penny. I wonder if he's afraid to end the series because he'll need to start over and create something new; WOT is a guaranteed paycheck every two years (plus supplemental income).
In general, it's tough to judge the series until it's done. RJ sure goes in a bunch of directions; it's hard to imagine how he'll be able to tie everything together. My hunch is that he won't. I hope I'm wrong, though. In any case, I'm hooked (in part because of a lack of good fantasy writing in the world), so he's got me on board for the rest of the ride.
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01-08-2004, 03:36 AM | #15 |
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Wow, I'm impressed. I starting losing interest in the fourth book, made it through the fifth, but just couldn't continue. I'm impressed that some of you are up on the current (10th! YIKES!) installment!
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01-08-2004, 12:22 PM | #16 |
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Has Jordan finished writing it? Nope.
Is the series finished anyway? Yep. You know there's a serious problem when even the hardcore WoT fans lose faith in him and drop Crossroads of Twilight (Book 10) to one-and-a-half stars on Amazon.com. I dropped the series after A Crown of Swords (despite having bought both Path of Daggers and Winter's Heart) and have seen no reason to go back since. Time better spent reading real literature. I did enjoy some things about it at the outset, but the series has become increasingly ridiculous. Mind you, I got far enough in it that I have every right to make fun of it as much as I want. Robert Jordan is a good plot designer - I especially like how he weaves political intrigue - but he doesn't write, he rambles.
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01-10-2004, 10:35 PM | #17 |
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He does ramble quite a bit. Something that really annoyed me was when i got to the last 100 or so pages of book 5, I decided that it was getting annoying so i returned it to the library. Several months later I decided that I would read book 6, I got to page 95 and I had no clue at all what was happening, so today I paid a trip to the library
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01-11-2004, 05:40 AM | #18 |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by IronParrot
Has Jordan finished writing it? Nope. Is the series finished anyway? Yep. So one doesn't have to worry about there being any books 11,12 and so on then. Last edited by Grey_Wolf : 01-11-2004 at 05:43 AM. |
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