01-22-2002, 12:07 AM | #1 |
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Aragorn's claim to the Throne of Gondor
One of his ancestor's Andruvi (SP?) try the claim and failed. The reason being that Isildur left the throne to his nephew. and they chose another from the of Elendil. ( a cousin to the former king I believe)
Why should Aragorn's claim hold? ( aside from Faramir being laid back) Was it becuase there was NO other of Elendil's blood around and of his military prowess.
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01-22-2002, 12:22 AM | #2 |
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Arvedui also claimed he should be king because he married Ondoher's daughter Firiel. I think it might have been territorial on the part of the Council of Gondor. They actually never gave Arvedui a satisfactory answer. Arvedui gave up his claim to the throne(at that particular time, not forever) to keep from causing trouble. I think Faramir was the key. He knew that Aragorn had a legitimite claim to the throne.
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01-22-2002, 12:23 AM | #3 |
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Arvedui's claim was probably legitimate, as under Numerorean law descent could pass through females, and Arvedui was married to the only surviving child of the last real heir of Anarion. Also, Elendil claimed the kingship of both Arnor and Gondor, and the realms weren't split until his death The Dunedain of Gondor preferred to have one of their own as leader, not some johnny-come-lately from Arthedain.
Faramir recongnized that Elendil's heir was clearly the king of Gondor, and had no ambition of his own to speak of. Easy call for him, given how true the old bloodlines flow in Aragorn....he represents the very best of human, Elvish, and Maian bloodlines. |
01-22-2002, 12:26 AM | #4 |
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Foul_Dwimmerlaik said it way better than me!
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01-24-2002, 03:55 PM | #5 | |
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As for Aragorn, I think there are more factors than Faramir. Aragorn did bring an army to deliver Gondor, that makes it little less easy to turn his claim on the throne down. Besides he was the only one left of the King's line, in Arvedui's time there were some other candidates in Gondor. And Aragorn could heal people and it was said that only kings could do that. |
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