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North American Relations
Inspired by other region-specific discussion, let's talk about all aspects of relations between Canada, Mexico and the United States here! I was originally going to call it "Canada - USA Relations", but let's not leave out Mexico.
Let's kick it off with NAFTA, but we can talk about other North American issues here too. This was originally from discussion between JD and I in the EU thread. We were talking about NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement). It was pointed out that both Canada and the US place tarriffs on different goods. Now, I admit I don't know a lot about the specifics of the Free Trade agreement, but I'm sure adding tarriffs goes against it. Incidentally, isn't Mexico in this agreement too? What do you (all Mooters) feel about NAFTA? What are the benefits and drawbacks to you? Let's try not to get this topic closed eh? EDIT: I changed the title because half this thread is also about Central America, and South America should be included too. EDIT2: Thanks SGH!
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01-21-2005, 01:51 PM | #3 |
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Are caribbean countries part of NAFTA?
I'm supporting Cuba's entry |
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but turkey isnt in europe, and yet the caribbean states are in northern america
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My argument anyway - is that Cuba does not - nor the other countries have the same ecomony as the US, Canada and mexico - it does not serve to have those countries part of NAFTA because of what NAFTA's purpose is. Just like so many Europeans feel that Turkey does not match up to the requirements for EU membership - even though Turkey IS a European country as much as Russia is.
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i was just serving to demonstrate the fine line between continents, nothing more
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The carribean islands don't have the trade to be considered into NAFTA. Puerto Rico is the poorest part of the US - if it was a state it would be the poorest state after Mississippi, but is the richest of the Carribean Islands.
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Thanks for the NAFTA Resources JD, I'll read those when it's not... erm... 3am.
Interesting about Cuba. IIRC they have applied or at least asked to be a NAFTA member. Why not let them into this economic alliance? This could be good for Cuba-USA relations as well as benefiting other NAFTA members. I know that effects of the Cold War still remain, but I also think it's important to try to repair this damage. IIRC Cuba still has a Communist government, but that doesn't mean we can't start building relationships with them. I think Canada has a pretty good relationship with Cuba. But weren't we part of the Cold War too? I have a pretty good general knowledge but this is one area where I need some updating.
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Is it true that if you cross the equator, toilets flow in the opposite direction?
Does this have any relevancy to North American relations? Just what kind of relations are we discussing? First degree? Second degree? Just thought I'd lighten up a little!
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Let's see - the US has 286 million people, canada has roughly 31 million, mexico has almost 100 million. That would give the US 417 million citizens. Of course we'd have to get the Mexican economy on track. After we get Canada and Mexico firmly under the US umbrella - we then start to work on getting South America (of course that would probably be a little bit more difficult - all those rebels and drug cartells down there ).
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*desperate attempt to get back on topic* There's the European equivalent to NAFTA, called EFTA. Only four countries are still members - Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland - since many of the former members quit when they joined the EU.
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i'm not a part of the EU, i can't answer that, although i would quite happily admit any european nation should they wish, providing they are not a repressive toalitarian dictatorship, and i would have thought the purpose of any trade agreement ought to be to increase trade between other nations, especially poorer nations, but what do i know? as is quite obvious by your derogatory statements toward me
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a) i said turkey was not in europe to make a point, nothing more, i obviously know that a small (very small) part of that state is in europe, as is the same with russia (and, debatebly) georgia/armenia/azerbaijan - being west of the Urals)
and b) how could EU be a member of EFTA, the EU is not a state in it's own right, merely a collection of european countries sharing the same primary goals, which is why the EEC pre-existed |
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