Love Sucks

Starr Polish · 02-08-2002, 11:58 PM

Especially when someone 'loves you', and you don't love them back...

I hate hurting people

emplynx · 02-09-2002, 12:00 AM

Sorry.

***Tessar*** · 02-09-2002, 12:08 AM

Did something like that just happen to you?

FrodoFriend · 02-09-2002, 12:52 AM

But which is worse: when some one loves you and you don't love them, or when you love some one and they don't love you? Having experienced both . . . I still don't know. Worst of all is when you love someone and you find out they're a jerk.

Adam Sandler in the Wedding Singer:
He loves her, but she loves this guy over here
And he loves somebody else
You just can't win . . .
LOVE STINKS! Yeah, yeah . . .

Cute song. Love is still worth it though.

Starr Polish · 02-09-2002, 12:55 AM

Oh yes, of course love is worth it, most definately...but it's really hard to tell when it's love and when it isn't.

I might tell more about this tomorrow, I'm kind of laggy tired.

afro-elf · 02-09-2002, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Adam Sandler in the Wedding Singer:

He was singing a song by The J. Giels Band.

Sakata · 02-09-2002, 03:28 AM

Love is colder than death? tad pessimistic if you ask me, I have never been in love but everone who has says it is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all right?

Laurelyn · 02-09-2002, 11:42 AM

Well, yes, it IS better to have loved and have lost than not to have loved at all, b/c you gain experience by losing, but the pain of losing one you love . . . well, let's just say this. I don't cry much, but when I had to say goodbye to my sort-of-ex I cried for hours.
Loving is great, it's the losing that sucks.

Wayfarer · 02-09-2002, 04:49 PM

Well... forgive me for saying so, but if your experience has anything at all in common with what I often see, it's not wise to classify it as 'love'.

Real love is a selfless decision to put others first, compared to the common view of love which is a selfish emotional state, an infatuation with another person.

I'll leave you to determine which 'sucks'.

Aragorn · 02-09-2002, 04:56 PM

Yeah, I doubt anyone here(I don't know, I just doubt it) have ever really "loved". I'm not saying I have, cause I haven't. But it is said that you know it is love when you just have no doubts in your mind. And you fear about that persons death more than yours. Actually, I don't know if that has been said by someone famous, I just made it up.

But who knows. Is there even such thing as "true love"?

FrodoFriend · 02-09-2002, 06:36 PM

Well, I certainly hope that what I've experienced so far isn't true love! That would suck, cause it sure wasn't that great.

Starr Polish · 02-09-2002, 07:55 PM

Meh...I think there is confusion about what I said.

I'm not 'in love', someone has told me that they are 'in love' with me. I understand that it probably isn't real love, but rejection hurts, and I don't like to hurt people...

I'm not saying I don't beleive that teenagers can fall in love, but I think it is EXTREMELY rare!

galadriel88 · 02-09-2002, 08:34 PM

Well, what other word are you gonna use? I mean, "Liking stinks" just soesn't sound right, does it? but I do agree that love is something way deeper than just infatuation.

As for me, I have never had someone like me & me not like them, but I sure have liked a LOT of people when they didn't like me! *sigh* THAT really stinks, esp. when you know they don't even like you as a friend, or when they are too old for you anyway. I like a guy right now who is 4 years older than me. He is really sweet, and I know he likes me as a friend, but how could I ever expect him to Like like me?

***anduin*** · 02-10-2002, 01:02 AM

My sister fell in love as a teenager, got married at 18 and is still very happily married with three children and 2 1/2 grandchildren. So it is possible, yet you are right....extremely rare.

I myself dated quite a few men in my lifetime.

Most of them I was infactuated with. When I met my husband, I was far from being infactuated with him. That alone told me that this one was different. We have been together for 7 years now.

I know what you are going through though. I had a very close friend. We were inseparable. We could talk for hours to each other, about anything. We hung out everyday...did everything together. We even took a trip together to Colorado. While we were there, at Red Rocks, while the sun was setting on a beautiful summer day, our last day out west, he turned to me and told me that he was in love with me and had been for quite a long time!! I just about lost it. I had nothing to say for the first time. Without even thinking I told him that I didn't feel the same way and couldn't, wouldn't even talk to him the entire car ride back to Kentucky. He was coming to terms with it by the time we reached St. Louis. It's funny, I now can't remember whether or not it messed with our friendship or not. I don't think that it did too much. We stayed very close for a long while and then we slowly made our seperate ways over time, but to this day we still talk and hang out.

Laurelyn · 10-13-2002, 07:46 PM

Heh . . .
Independence sucks, that's what.
People are confusing and so are hearts. What do you do if somebody says they only want you to be happy, but . . . .
What if you are happy, except for that annoying little voice in the back of your head saying that you aren't?
How do you shut those annoying little voices up?

BeardofPants · 10-13-2002, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Laurelyn
How do you shut those annoying little voices up?

This is about the point when you take up drinking.

(Or they'll come to take you away... hee-hee haa haa!

)

Hmm. I've been in both situations as well. I think I prefer having an unrequited love directed at ME rather than having my heart on the line. Although they're both quite painful... especially if you're pretty close friends with them. Thank herakles I haven't been in either anytime recently.

Lizra · 10-13-2002, 08:35 PM

You spend a lot of time arguing with the little voice, also debating with yourself as to whether you're crazy because you are talking to yourself! What fun!

I agree with BoP. When I was 17, I was totally in love with a guy, who would come close, but never deliver. It tore me up! Years later I found out my dad had called him and threatened him with bodily harm. I wish I had known, I suffered through so much doubt and depression over it! I read LoTR three times that year. It was my only escape!

Human#3.141592653 · 10-13-2002, 08:51 PM

Love? What's that?

My friends, or some of my good aquiantances, go on and on about this boy or that girl, how much they LOVE them etc.

I think that they are faking it. I think that they are feeling a rather simple emotion/attraction and are making a big stink about it.

The type of love that I know is family love, which is strong and subtle like water. It's just there. I feel the same way about some of my freinds, they are just wonderful, and I would do anything for them.

A type of love I've heard about but never had the chance to meet is love driven by one's nether regions.

I don't believe in true love, which I gather is a melding point between water love and nether love felt at the frist moment of introduction. It is simply too far fetched.

Of course, what do I know? I haven't lived long enough to have epreinced tha type of love that makes you mad over some boy or some girl.

But to top it all off, I may be in love with one of my good friends. I haven't the slightest idea.

And that's what I know about love.

On a different note: Does any know how you tell what kind of love it is you feel for another person?

Sween · 10-14-2002, 02:35 AM

Loves great well it is for me. Theres nothin that makes you happier than been loved.

Nazgûl Queen · 10-14-2002, 02:43 AM

Well, the first time I ever loved someone was this year, one of my very best friends. And do you know how i know that it's proper love and not just a crush? Because he likes one of my friends, and she likes him, and i'm happy for them

Although I still wish that he'd like me

02-08-2002, 11:58 PM	#1
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Love Sucks Especially when someone 'loves you', and you don't love them back... I hate hurting people __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

02-09-2002, 12:52 AM	#4
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	But which is worse: when some one loves you and you don't love them, or when you love some one and they don't love you? Having experienced both . . . I still don't know. Worst of all is when you love someone and you find out they're a jerk. Adam Sandler in the Wedding Singer: He loves her, but she loves this guy over here And he loves somebody else You just can't win . . . LOVE STINKS! Yeah, yeah . . . Cute song. Love is still worth it though. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-09-2002, 12:55 AM	#5
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Oh yes, of course love is worth it, most definately...but it's really hard to tell when it's love and when it isn't. I might tell more about this tomorrow, I'm kind of laggy tired. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

02-09-2002, 03:28 AM	#7
Sakata Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 216	Love is colder than death? tad pessimistic if you ask me, I have never been in love but everone who has says it is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all right? __________________ "When evil people come to destroy me, when my enemies and foes attack me, they will stumble and fall. Though a mighty army surrounds me, my heart will know no fear." -Psalms 27:2-3 -Dare you venture into Gollum's Lair? JESUS LIVES!

02-09-2002, 11:42 AM	#8
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Well, yes, it IS better to have loved and have lost than not to have loved at all, b/c you gain experience by losing, but the pain of losing one you love . . . well, let's just say this. I don't cry much, but when I had to say goodbye to my sort-of-ex I cried for hours. Loving is great, it's the losing that sucks. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

02-09-2002, 12:00 AM	#2
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	Sorry.

02-09-2002, 12:08 AM	#3
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	Did something like that just happen to you?

02-09-2002, 04:49 PM	#9
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Well... forgive me for saying so, but if your experience has anything at all in common with what I often see, it's not wise to classify it as 'love'. Real love is a selfless decision to put others first, compared to the common view of love which is a selfish emotional state, an infatuation with another person. I'll leave you to determine which 'sucks'. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

02-09-2002, 04:56 PM	#10
Aragorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere but where I should be. Posts: 369	Yeah, I doubt anyone here(I don't know, I just doubt it) have ever really "loved". I'm not saying I have, cause I haven't. But it is said that you know it is love when you just have no doubts in your mind. And you fear about that persons death more than yours. Actually, I don't know if that has been said by someone famous, I just made it up. But who knows. Is there even such thing as "true love"? __________________ And they carried them to the flatlands But they died along the way And they built up with their bare hands What we still can't do today. EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMEDDCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO till the day I die.

02-09-2002, 06:36 PM	#11
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Well, I certainly hope that what I've experienced so far isn't true love! That would suck, cause it sure wasn't that great. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

02-09-2002, 07:55 PM	#12
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Meh...I think there is confusion about what I said. I'm not 'in love', someone has told me that they are 'in love' with me. I understand that it probably isn't real love, but rejection hurts, and I don't like to hurt people... I'm not saying I don't beleive that teenagers can fall in love, but I think it is EXTREMELY rare! __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

02-09-2002, 08:34 PM	#13
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Well, what other word are you gonna use? I mean, "Liking stinks" just soesn't sound right, does it? but I do agree that love is something way deeper than just infatuation. As for me, I have never had someone like me & me not like them, but I sure have liked a LOT of people when they didn't like me! sigh THAT really stinks, esp. when you know they don't even like you as a friend, or when they are too old for you anyway. I like a guy right now who is 4 years older than me. He is really sweet, and I know he likes me as a friend, but how could I ever expect him to Like like me? __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

02-10-2002, 01:02 AM	#14
*anduin* Entwife Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: louisville Posts: 3,718	My sister fell in love as a teenager, got married at 18 and is still very happily married with three children and 2 1/2 grandchildren. So it is possible, yet you are right....extremely rare. I myself dated quite a few men in my lifetime. Most of them I was infactuated with. When I met my husband, I was far from being infactuated with him. That alone told me that this one was different. We have been together for 7 years now. I know what you are going through though. I had a very close friend. We were inseparable. We could talk for hours to each other, about anything. We hung out everyday...did everything together. We even took a trip together to Colorado. While we were there, at Red Rocks, while the sun was setting on a beautiful summer day, our last day out west, he turned to me and told me that he was in love with me and had been for quite a long time!! I just about lost it. I had nothing to say for the first time. Without even thinking I told him that I didn't feel the same way and couldn't, wouldn't even talk to him the entire car ride back to Kentucky. He was coming to terms with it by the time we reached St. Louis. It's funny, I now can't remember whether or not it messed with our friendship or not. I don't think that it did too much. We stayed very close for a long while and then we slowly made our seperate ways over time, but to this day we still talk and hang out.

10-13-2002, 07:46 PM	#15
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	Heh . . . Independence sucks, that's what. People are confusing and so are hearts. What do you do if somebody says they only want you to be happy, but . . . . What if you are happy, except for that annoying little voice in the back of your head saying that you aren't? How do you shut those annoying little voices up? __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

10-13-2002, 08:35 PM	#17
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	You spend a lot of time arguing with the little voice, also debating with yourself as to whether you're crazy because you are talking to yourself! What fun! I agree with BoP. When I was 17, I was totally in love with a guy, who would come close, but never deliver. It tore me up! Years later I found out my dad had called him and threatened him with bodily harm. I wish I had known, I suffered through so much doubt and depression over it! I read LoTR three times that year. It was my only escape! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats! Last edited by Lizra : 10-13-2002 at 08:49 PM.

10-13-2002, 08:51 PM	#18
Human#3.141592653 Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Truth or Consequences, New Mexico Posts: 292	Love? What's that? My friends, or some of my good aquiantances, go on and on about this boy or that girl, how much they LOVE them etc. I think that they are faking it. I think that they are feeling a rather simple emotion/attraction and are making a big stink about it. The type of love that I know is family love, which is strong and subtle like water. It's just there. I feel the same way about some of my freinds, they are just wonderful, and I would do anything for them. A type of love I've heard about but never had the chance to meet is love driven by one's nether regions. I don't believe in true love, which I gather is a melding point between water love and nether love felt at the frist moment of introduction. It is simply too far fetched. Of course, what do I know? I haven't lived long enough to have epreinced tha type of love that makes you mad over some boy or some girl. But to top it all off, I may be in love with one of my good friends. I haven't the slightest idea. And that's what I know about love. On a different note: Does any know how you tell what kind of love it is you feel for another person? __________________ You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.

10-14-2002, 02:35 AM	#19
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Loves great well it is for me. Theres nothin that makes you happier than been loved. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

10-14-2002, 02:43 AM	#20
Nazgûl Queen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 400	Well, the first time I ever loved someone was this year, one of my very best friends. And do you know how i know that it's proper love and not just a crush? Because he likes one of my friends, and she likes him, and i'm happy for them Although I still wish that he'd like me __________________ Morauko Umrien, Queen of the Nazgûl and Lady of Mordor Mistress of the Night The Nazgûl Queen she was, the Ringwraith, the enemy's most terrible servant; darkness went with her and she cried with the voices of death. Can be found loitering at Fantasy Essentials or her livejournal...

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