12-19-2003, 01:48 PM | #1 |
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* Some Amazing Insights into ROTK! *
Hi i've just come back from watching the movie, and it was the most amazing thing ever! Anyway, here are some of my insights:
- I thought it was really unfair when that lady Eomer killed the Witch-King of Angmar, what did he do to deserve this death? Anyway, at least he got his own back and killed that stupid old man Theoden. - The bit where the orc boats land onto osgiliath and you see that deformed pink orc, well i thought that was the most touching part of the movie and i cried so much when they showed his deformed club hand and his face. By the time we see him again shouting orders to the orcs on the Pelennor Fields, I was drowning in tears; for here he was shouting orders. I was totally taken aback by this and i didn't expect it - some people behind me however, didn't seem to share my emotions, and they told me to stop making so much noise. - Why did Denethor not kill Pippin when he had the chance? If i was Denethor i would have stabbed him when he wasn't looking. - Generally, i thought the computer graphics were pretty sub par. The silly Gollum character was so obviously a puppet. I tried telling this to the person sitting next to me, but he told me to shut up and watch the movie. - I think the ending was excellent, but the problem was I fell into a loud fit of cough from the Grey Havens onwards, im not sure why all the audience were giving me dirty looks at the end - probably typical Tolkien nerd behaviour. Anyway, except fot the few quirks ive mentioned,it is a very well done movie and Ian Mckellen's portrayal of Saruman is especially well done. Tell me what you think. |
12-19-2003, 01:57 PM | #2 |
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You're a funny kid...kinda scary...but funny.
Welcome to Entmoot!!!!
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ah, yes. you've a keen eye for detail my friend...but not keen enough- allow me to add my comments which were subtly discerned:
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remember in bree when he pointed out frodo baggins? do you really think it just "slipped"? did you somehow miss the way he tried to get the fellowship killed by summoning a party of orcs and goblins in the elfin city of moria? by pushing that skeleton into the well and the PRETENDING it was an accident? after crossing the bridge and escaping, pippin shed no tears for the fallen gandalf...he wept because he had failed sauron, and the fellowship went onward. didn't you notice that it was pippin who tried to kept mary from talking to treebeard? why? he didn't want the ents to help in the war. but mary foiled him. and then he told treebeard to go past isengard. why? so treebeard would see all of the destruction of the trees. pippin was hoping to break the spirit of the trees. yet, foiled again. then pippin is the one who "accidentally" finds the palantir, then uses it to contact sauron. come on. please. denethor immediately recognized pippin as an agent of evil. you know, you have to be one to know one. THAT is why he didnt do anything to him. in fact- denethor FEARED pippin. and well he should have. even at the end, if you look closely and with a discerning eye- when frodo is leaving on the white ship and they are all weeping. look closely. pippin is SMILING! yes, he weeps for joy when he sees the thorn in his flesh departing away with gandalf and the other goodly beings. undoubtedly, he was already hatching a new scheme to raise up the black tower and bring back sauron. also, think about this little nugget. PIPPIN has 3 P's in it. and what is P's place in the alphabet? 16! but I is 9 and N is 14. subtract 18 and 14 and that gives you 4, take away 3 for the 3 P's which gives you >1<. now take away the 1 from 16, and you have >6<. PPP=666!!!!! pippin is the antichrist. i have tried to explain this to everyone, but they dont seem to "get it". blind fools. Quote:
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Hmm...never thought of that. But you are right of course.
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And I think Jackson also must have had some ambitions of showing us Sauron's good sides. For one thing, he employed the elephant man, despite his uglyness. Is that evil? And also the elephants, hyenas and deformed eagles. They must clearly have been well fed and treated to grow so big. He must be very good at handeling animals. I think Sauron could have been a very fine ruler of Middle Earth. Welcome to the forum, Dr_Deranged!
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12-19-2003, 05:14 PM | #5 |
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I wish I just had the past 5 minutes of my life back after reading this thread...
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at first i thought this guy was serious, hahaha
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