05-22-2001, 12:17 AM | #1 |
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Gondor and Dol Amroth
What was the relationship between Gondor and Dol Amroth? Were they separate, but allies, or was Dol Amroth a territory of Gondor?
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05-22-2001, 01:27 AM | #2 |
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Re: Gondor and Dol Amroth
The Princes of Dol Amroth were vassals of the King of Gondor.
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06-02-2001, 01:41 PM | #3 |
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Re: Gondor and Dol Amroth
Dol Amroth was a region and city in Gondor. The Prince of Dol Amroth is a vassal of the King(and also the Steward during the Rule of the Stewards).
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05-21-2002, 04:20 PM | #4 |
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Also, there were some elven blood in the line of the princes of Dol Amroth if I remember my history correctly.
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05-21-2002, 08:46 PM | #6 |
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yes it was imrazor the numenorian and nimdodel's hand maiden
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Right. You have great questions afro-elf.. makes me want to do research and all. Too bad I'm at work right now. :\
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Is there any work by Tolkien where Dol Amroth is described more deeply? There was not much information in LotR and it's appendix.
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The namesake of Dol Amroth was Amroth the Sindarin Elf, King of Lorien, who was the love of Nimrodel, drowned in the Bay of Belfalas.
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Dol Amroth was occupied by a family of the Faithful that had left numenor before the downfall. I think it said that in unfinished tales
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For some reason, Dol Amroth and Imrahil have always facinated me. I hope the Prince is in the ROTK movie. He better be gorgeous.
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It was something that the people of Dol Amroth liked to believe in.
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I looked up the actual passage about the 3 unions in LotR, appendix A. It says: Quote:
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"Tolkien makes it clear that this was a tradition in Dol Amroth, and not necessarily a true story. According to the legend, Mithrellas was a companion of Nimrodel, who became lost in the woodlands of Belfalas, and was taken in by Imrazôr. As far as they go, these details match the established history of Nimrodel's journey. Unions of Elf and Man, though, are all but unheard of in Tolkien's universe, and are always of vital historical importance. The Princes' claims of Elven descent, while they are not certainly false, are difficult to accept without scepticism."
--The Encyclopedia of Arda Yes, maybe Imrahil was related to Elros in some way. The word 'Eldar' is applied to all elves, so if Tolkien said there were only three unions of the Eldar and Edain I guess he must've meant of all the Elves and all the Men.
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Eldar (as used in LotR et.al.) refers to those Elves who embarked upon the Great Journey (and their descendants) as opposed to the Avari.
The Elven ancstress of Imrahil was Mithrellas, a handmaiden of of Nimrodel, and was, apparently a Silvan Elf of Avarin descent, and not an Elda.
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Yes, it's true that the Elves who didn't embark upon the Great Journey were not Eldar.
But the Silvian Elves were Eldar. They were Teleri who fell away from the Great Journey. The Avari were Elves who didn't take part in the Great Journey at all, which the Silvian Elves apparently did. So since Mithrellas was a Silvian Elf, she couldn't have been one of the Avari. She must have been an Elda.
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