11-14-2003, 12:39 PM | #1 |
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The western world is dying out
Asia and Africa will rule this and the next century while Europe and the rest of the western world will wallow in a steadily increasing unemployment and spreading poverty thanks to the companies which sell out their factories and close their offices.
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11-14-2003, 12:45 PM | #2 |
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Disagree... at least with the second half. Africa is a humanitarian crisis... not even waiting to happen - but well under way! Asia is bogged down with problems of its own. If the west falls, we take much of the rest of civilization with us (not intentionally - just by cause-and-effect).
Oh woe unto us... who will rescue us? The West is failing... (now wait... where have I heard THAT before?? ) |
11-14-2003, 01:01 PM | #3 |
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How pessimistic you are. We are in a recession right now but recessions don't last forever! There is light at the end of the tunnel. Ok, Asia and maybe Africa will become richer in the future but I certainly don't think that "the West is failing"
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But perhaps this downward swing will turn upwards in time for me to not give up hope althogether. |
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That having been said - I wish they would not be shipping high tech programming jobs to India. The US has been becoming a high tech/service country and now they are shipping our jobs over seas. There aren't other industries to replace the high tech industry. If the people of the US can' afford to buy the products produced in other countries - the whole world suffers. The US consumer has more disposable income then other counries and we are the one's who buy - but if we're out of work - we can't buy. And Grey Wolf - I'm in the same position as you it seems. It's very depressing and it sucks - because I'm a computer programmer (Java and PowerBuilder) and it seems like there are NO jobs out there at all. I'm trying to work on my website - but who knows how long that will take and if it will get me anywhere in the end. I have pretty much determined - I need to start my own business - and that starts with getting my dynamic NJ Travel Website up.
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you can't find a job? welcome to the growing club.
hang in there. bush can't preside over his reign of error forever. *pats grey wolf on the back*
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It's mostly just the natural ebb and flow of the economy.
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as Winston Churchill said, "If you're going through hell, keep going."
things always get better (then worse again... but that's the ebb and flow thing ) |
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The economy here is in a bad condition, more than 10% unemployed, and becuase of all the terror attacksa we loose tourists and investments (from other countries). The goverment tried to solve the problems by giving money to the rich and take from the poor - for that the rich will invest and set up factories, no unemployment, etc, but it doesn't work. And the workers organizations keep striking every time the ministers decide to take more money of them. (=the economical situation is not very good, in one sentence) |
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the real question is when the economy is in a downturn do you stimulate investment, which by it's very nature takes time to "trickle-down"... or do you stimulate consumer spending, which can be near-immediate? read about reagan in the 80s and you'll see how trickle-down fared |
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Anyway I'm going to keep on trying even if one sometimes feels it's useless. Last edited by Grey_Wolf : 11-14-2003 at 06:12 PM. |
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Why don't we just take ALL o fhte rich people's money and just give it all to the poor and not have the poor have to work or pay any taxes. Would that be a better way of doing things? Would that satisfy you? Give me a break. Liberals always want to look at tax cuts as dollar amounts and and refuse to look at the percentage. Too many people are too stupid to look at the percentages. I will repeat the LOWER CLASSES - middle class and UNDER got bigger percentage in the tax cuts than the rich. The democrats got up and gave speeches that they weere upset that the peopel who did NOT pay taxes didn't get a tax cut. If they don't pay taxes - how are they supposed to get a tax cut? IR - you are the one that needs to start living in the real world. Oh and VooDoo economics was the term used by liberals as a way of discrediting it - even though the same policies were in place under Clinton too. That was a 2 decade growth period in the economy.
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