08-26-2004, 06:04 AM | #1 |
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Bill Ferny: Man or Hobbit
Unless I'm mistaken I don't think Tolkien ever says in LotR whether Bill Ferny is a Man or a Hobbit. There is evidence to show both.
Hobbit: Bill was a pony not a horse and men don't usually have ponies. Man: He took up the squint-eyed Southener and the ruffians. Is there any other evidence to suggest he is either because if would really lik to know.
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I always thought he was like a wicked tall Hobbit. But if anyone with real evidence comes a long I will accept it as factual
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08-26-2004, 06:09 AM | #3 |
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I always assumed he was a hobbit until I really thought about it.
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08-26-2004, 06:14 AM | #4 |
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well some hobbits could take on men and maybe Bill was one of them
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08-26-2004, 06:16 AM | #5 |
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Yes but Aragorn said that Bill knew the lands around Bree well and if he was a hobbit I doubt that he'd go travelling round the lands near Bree just to get one over on Strider or for luxery.
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but hes already pretty unusual for working at the prancing pony. He probably has a little adventurous spirit in him. So he probably did go walk around Bree
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08-26-2004, 06:31 AM | #7 |
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Bill Ferny didn't work at The Prancing Pony.
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oops sorry. Whatever I always figured he was of the tookish strain and that is why he hung out there so much
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08-26-2004, 06:36 AM | #9 |
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No I thin he just hung out there to get info he could sell on.
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maybe but i think it makes more sense if hes a hobbit
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08-26-2004, 06:41 AM | #11 |
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Yeah but I just want to know if there is any solid evidence.
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none that I know of
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08-26-2004, 06:44 AM | #13 |
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There's probably something in one of the Appendices or another book.
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Im skimming those right now and I havent come up with anything yet.
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I always assumed Ferny was a Hobbit, can't say why really. But judging from the quote here, I think he may more likely have been a man. from FOTR, chapter "at the sign of the Prancing Pony": Quote:
From FOTR, chapter "A knife in the dark" Quote:
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Wow thanks Eärniel.
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Darn, Earnil beat me to it. Yes, Bill Ferny was a man, for the reasons she gave.
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okay wel that settles that Bill Ferny was a man. WIPEEEE!!!!!!! But if he was a hobbit do you think he would have been bad too?
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08-26-2004, 04:44 PM | #19 |
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Dunno but if he was imagine him with the Ring hehehe
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OH NO! NOT ANOTHER WHAT IF X GOT THE RING!!!!!!!!! AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sounds fun tho. I think he wqould claim lordship over Bree....
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