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Ave Papa - we have a new Pope
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04-19-2005, 01:03 PM | #2 |
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Habemus Papam! A German one too, meaning they didn't go back to "Italians only" . Ratzinger was one of the favourites among the bookmakers, and it was believed chances were big that the next pope would choose the name Benedict XVI.
[edit] I guess the other cardinals wanted a pope who knows the Vatican like the palms of his hand. Ratziger was the perfect choice seeing that he's worked with the old pope since the 70's.
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What's "hmmmm" the Hitler Youth thing? I think his later desertion of the army shows what he thought about that rubbish.
I wondered how many German popes there have been, and a quick Google turns up that there have been six, and Pope John Paul II was the first non-Italian Pope since 1523. EDIT: *waves to Jonathan in cross-posting*
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04-19-2005, 01:43 PM | #4 |
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He's the first German pope since the 1100s, I believe. He's also an accomplished pianist.
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04-19-2005, 01:46 PM | #5 |
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YAY!
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04-19-2005, 02:01 PM | #6 |
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He has a huge job ahead but appears very competent to accomplish it. May he reign in peace.
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04-19-2005, 02:15 PM | #7 |
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It's amazing how short has been the conclave (do you use the same word in English?). Considering that he has got more than 77 votes out of 115 it seems that 4 votations have been very few. Pope JPII needed 8 votations to be elected. All this says that he's very respected between the cardinals.
And I'd like to say that it does semms also that all that journalist rubish that they've been selling about being to confronted sides in the conclave have very little basis...
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04-19-2005, 02:18 PM | #8 |
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Yep, it is the same word. BTW how to you get that tiny print, I've looked all over and can't figure out how to do it?
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04-19-2005, 02:36 PM | #9 |
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Ratzinger strongly advocated against gays asking people of faith to repeal any legislation granting protection to homosexuals.
He was head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith which is the organ of the church devoted to squelching internal dissent on theological matters. He is also agaist contraception and condom usage everywhere in the world. He is against a greater role of women in the church and wants to uphold celibacy. He was a memeber of the Nazi party in his youth, although you have to know that membership to the Nazi party was "compulsory" in Germany in that time. Well, it was not truly compulsory, but refusing the membership would have brought you to jail and he was 14-17 years old when that happened. |
04-19-2005, 02:42 PM | #10 |
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Habemus Papam!
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04-19-2005, 05:30 PM | #14 |
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Is int it so cool we got a new pope and he is german that is so cool yes yes
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04-19-2005, 05:51 PM | #16 |
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Congratulations to the Roman Catholics! I am glad you have a conservative and traditionalist as Pope. While not popular in this forum or the Global North, the RC's do have a coherent and consistent belief system and they mean what they say. Good thing the former JPII had this Cardinal as in charge of doctrine and conformity to the teaching of the Church. I think that this means there will be no sea change in the current modus operandi.
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The roman catholic leadership is extremely manipulative in its believe system. Want a recent example? John Paul II clearly accelerated his own death when he saw it most convenient for his own agenda (pushing for his own sainthood) and the church (the parading of his suffering was good for the church, but now his imparement was too big and was actually a hinderance). The catholic church picks and chooses whatever is most convenient to them between "no euthanesia/no assisted suicide" and "no excessive therapy (don't quite know the name of it in English, in Italian it is called "no all'accanimento terapeutico"). EDIT: added the subject "it" to the first sentence so that it makes clear that it refers to the quoted sentence, not the quote person Last edited by The Wizard from Milan : 04-19-2005 at 10:50 PM. |
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04-19-2005, 08:42 PM | #18 |
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He sounds wonderful . I'm pleased.
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Wizard - I think the term usually used in English is "heroic measures," but I may be wrong.
I'm not quite sure what to think of this Pope. As a non-Catholic it isn't that much of my business, but I certainly hope he will build on JPII's legacy rather than repudiating it. And given that he was very close to JPII, that seems likely.
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Hem, hem, you could hardly be more false than that. The church is not manipulative in its belief system--we have a set of hard and fast rules. If you want to be a Catholic you have to follow those. If you don't like them, no one's making you follow them. Lets not turn this into a bash the church thread. If you want to do that you may feel free to do so in the religion discussion thread. |
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