07-19-2004, 01:55 PM | #1 |
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Tolkien discussion ideas
Welcome to the Silmarillion forum.
In an effort to promote discussion of the Silmarillion, we would like to invite you to post your ideas in this thread. List any topics you would care to discuss. Even topics that you feel may have been overdone or recently posted are welcome. Please feel free to make suggestions as to how you think we can improve our Tolkien community and its forums. We especially wish to invite and strongly encourage all newbies to join in. We look forward to reading your topic ideas and suggestions. Thank you for your participation.
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07-20-2004, 08:03 AM | #2 |
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Great idea, again SGH, however, I've already posted some suggestions in the LOTR and Middle Earth forums and they wouldn't be that much different from the suggestions that I would make for this forum.
One thing, though. The Silmarillion is a vastly more complex book than the LOTR. It's a lot harder to discuss characters and their actions etc. If we want to encourage people, including "newbies" to read and discuss the book, it is imperative that there are sufficient "simple" discussions to enable beginning readers to join in. This is not to say that more complex discussions should not be encouraged, however, providing an "easy" entry point will support discussion at a more complex level at a later date. Regards, Elanor
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07-23-2004, 01:49 AM | #3 | |
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Personally I would welcome a character discussion here as well. We have already covered some of the characters in the Sil Project, but repetition would not hurt us.
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07-23-2004, 04:06 AM | #4 | |
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I think it would be fair to say that it is easier to discuss the LOTR at multi-levels than The Silmarillion. When I said "simple" discussions I meant that perhaps we should think creatively about how we can encourage discussions where all levels of understanding can be encompassed. For example: Talking about chronology where you simply discuss what happened, when, where and how is a much simpler concept to grasp than why a character behaved in a particular way - particularly when to do this may require integration of a variety of references. It is a difficult book to read the first time. We need to support and encourage first time readers. I agree with you that the way we greet newcomers is important. I am a "newbie" here myself. I only joined Entmoot last month. I have been most grateful for the warm welcome and assistance I have received from others.
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08-17-2004, 07:25 AM | #6 |
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Did it have any significance that Lúthien saw Gondolin from above?
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I think The Silmarillion is a slower and perhaps more difficult to read than Lord of the Rings, and is more broad in scope, but Lord of the Rings is not in any way a children's book. I can't think of anything I'd like to discuss that other people would too For example, I've always dreamed of the day someone would wander onto the Silmarillion board and ask: "Hey, does someone have a synopsis of the Sundering of the Elves according to Ñoldorin Reckoning, after the Doom of Mandos was spoken but before the Exiles arrived in Beleriand?" Maybe it's an unrealistic dream, and maybe it's sad I used to spend hours drawing up Elven Race charts and family trees with a pen, but you know what? Someone has to waste time ... much like I've done for this thread.
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08-19-2004, 04:24 AM | #8 | |
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09-08-2004, 03:10 PM | #9 |
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How about a thread 'Girls of the Silmarillion' so us guys don't feel left out from the Guys of the Silmarillion thread!
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11-21-2004, 10:39 PM | #10 |
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You're right. It's a very hard book to read. I've never been able to manage it, but I promise you I'll start it this week, and I'll keep a journal on what I read.
Good ol' SGH approved it! I will put each entry in a separate thread (a project!) and all sorts of relevant comments will be welcome, with spoilers. I won't read your responses until I'm done, and then I'll continue posting in this forum. That'll enliven it. How about tomorrow with an intro?
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11-21-2004, 10:55 PM | #11 |
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Telcontar - Because guys have more self control when it comes to that sort of thing, and are less likely to turn into drooling obsessives.
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Bah. I think all your tough talk is to disguise your inner fanboy Wayfarer.
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this book took me two tries to read so boring the firist hundred pages. got ot go ill be on monday
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08-07-2005, 09:42 PM | #17 |
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What book?
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11-13-2005, 08:28 PM | #18 |
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This thread is about discussion ideas for The Silmarillion, so Thraxon probably meant that book.
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02-20-2006, 03:45 PM | #19 |
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I would like to discuss why a High King of the Noldor cannot come from female descent (ex. Elrond) while a High King of Beleriand (this being the title that Thingol had as the ruler of Doriath) can (ex. Dior). Were there just basic cultural differences which dictated this? Or were there oher factors that played into it?
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