11-19-2003, 09:56 PM | #1 |
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The Gladden Fields - Isildur's luckiest battle
What do y'all think about Isildur's demise at the Gladden Fields? Is that not the luckiest death in all of these histories? Imagine Isildur making it home to set up his kingdom bearing the ring! How long could he have resisted its evil? I suggest he was already falling under its spell since he refused to cast it into the fire that was at hand. It would have changed him very quickly as he ruled as the High King of a united realm. The line of Isildur would have become accursed and the civil war of the Kin-strife would have been as childs play to the revolution that would have eventually occured as those Dunedain who would resist evil banded together against their brothers. Fortunately he was High King for only a short while and died before he could cause irreparable harm to his family. That must be the luckiest death in all of Middle Earth!
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The conclusion above about Isuldur's "timely?" demise seems highly probable, but there is an interesting entry touching on Isuldur's growing awareness of the Ring's power and how he might have dealt with it, had he not been killed:
Unfinished Tales, The Disaster Of The Gladden Fields Quote:
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11-19-2003, 11:28 PM | #3 |
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Yes, that is what I was thinking. A North vs. South and those type of wars have a modern history for bloodiness. I had forgotten the passage you quoted from Unfinished Tales but I instantly remembered it. Without a doubt he was not under any evil spells at that point in time. Perhaps the Ring merely serves to cloud your judgement in the early stages of its domination. For dominate it will eventually. (Even for those who may have greater strength than Men, such as Wizards and Elves).
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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11-20-2003, 02:12 AM | #7 |
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Ever the pain in my side eh Dunedain? Always pointing out the technicalities...lol (you're going to have a field day picking apart my geometry riddle when the answer becomes known).
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11-20-2003, 02:54 PM | #9 |
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Ha Ha, stick that tongue out all you like! I intend to repost that riddle on each new page until one of y'all solves it!
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11-20-2003, 03:18 PM | #10 |
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As has been said before there is more than one power in this world! Isildur was ment to fail and be destroyed in the same way the ring was ment to pass out of all knoledge! Nothing ever happens by pure chance in middle earth
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It was fated to happen.
Anyway, if Isildur hadn't died, he still couldn't have used the Ring. The elves would have deafeted him and destroyed the Ring. ( I always hated Isildur anyway. I was glad to see him go notwithstanding this silly "ring" business. THE SILMARILLION'S BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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